That every able bodied person has to work is an outdated concept. The new concept is that more and more people should be freed from working. This is the whole point of having technology. So that humans can work less and less.

No pay no play Johnny boy.


In 1930 average single worker income was about $4,850/yr. If you adjust that for inflation it's about $85,000/yr today. Today average worker income is $56,000/yr. And don't forget about the extra taxes and social programs of modern era. 1930 was the full first year of the Great Depression, so we are doing great by that benchmark. Plenty of work, sparse pay. Just work harder though, it will be alright.

This post was edited by RedFromWinter on Aug 31 2023 05:36pm

i saw plenty of the places, where people think like that.....dumps every single time or on their way to become one



i am aware of these numbers and they have nothing to do with what i said

i see a world, that needs a shitload of improvement still

what you describe is the product of big corp and the state teaming up against the people and i agree with you actually

purchasing power is down bad as you said, never have houses been more unaffordable etc (talking about the US)

that does not mean that there is not plenty of work out there to be done, there already is a shortage of people in the trades and other skilled professions

this shortage will increase more when the boomers retire, so instead of whining or demanding money for nothing from the state......maybe learn a skill and do something

It could be due to other reasons.

Why do you disagree that humans should work less? What is the point of having technological advances?

the point is to make things easier and it will continue to be that way

still, those buildings arent building themselves, that road isnt gonna pave itself, the powerline is not fixing itself, those resources arent going to dig themselves out of a hole

some jobs will obviously disappear, new ones will be created, but the basic work will stay

Easier for whom? The working people, or capitalists who are rich enough to buy machineries, new equipment, new softwares...etc.



I didn't say we should all be freed from working. I know that we still need some people to run things.



Let's say it used to take 1,000 men to extract oil but now due to technological advances, only 100 are needed. Do you think the 900 workers should be freed from working, or do you think they should find other stuff to do, just so that the owners who are rich enough to own the machineries (made possible by said technological advances) can become even richer?

This post was edited by JessiWan on Aug 31 2023 06:22pm

everybody, jobs that used to kill people in a few years can now be worked as a career for life

your example is not exactly realistic, but in general things are always changing

people always got phased out and had to move on, when (almost) nobody needed swords or horseshoes anymore, these blacksmiths moved on and did something else

of course some people get left behind in a transition, that has always happened and it will continue to happen, thats life

what is NOT going to happen however is people in general getting money for nothing, get outta here with this socialist nonsense

i recently watched a travel video with a guy visiting the shittiest areas in appalachia and he met a coal miner

his son worked the mines too for a bit, when he saw the writing on the wall he became a powerlineman and clears 200k a year in fucking west virginia

good for him, others would just cry for big daddy joe and start taking drugs

No pay no play, nothing free. Boomers the laziest generation of them all, had the golden platter from Greatest Generation and left their kids and grandkids with the numbers you are aware of, all while projecting onto next gen that they are the problem. Like parents casting blame on their toddlers.

This post was edited by RedFromWinter on Aug 31 2023 08:59pm

Actually adani has 100% automated coal mines from pit to port here in australia.

Militaries have killed their own people time and again don't be naive.

In the real world people do whatever they think they can get away with or that they have the authority to do. Millions of people tend to die before the leaders do.