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Jul 31 2023 08:26am
Quote (SBD @ Jul 31 2023 07:23am)
Right because present and future don't have bearing on a stance. Oh I'll just flip my stance when I need it!! Truly moronic.

See again I couldn't make it past the first paragraph without losing brain cells.


I didn't say they have no bearing. Just that you were accusing me of being on OAS/GIS currently which is simply incorrect.

It's ok to confuse the present with the future though. I mean you also think having read a lot means that you are now smart, hehehe.

I really feel that talking to you gives me insight on how stupid people can truly believe that they are intelligent and those who doubt them and ask questions are stupid.

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Jul 31 2023 08:33am
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I didn't say they have no bearing. Just that you were accusing me of being on OAS/GIS currently which is simply incorrect.

It's ok to confuse the present with the future though. I mean you also think having read a lot means that you are now smart, hehehe.

I really feel that talking to you gives me insight on how stupid people can truly believe that they are intelligent and those who doubt them and ask questions are stupid.


Do you know how to read? I said your "you're entire financial situation essentially relied on Canada's Old age security and GIS which is exactly, hey I'm poor government please take care of me."

I am well aware of the age restrictions of OAS.

Again, first sentence, couldn't make it past.

At least try to open the post with something not dumb so I can make it to the next line.
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Quote (SBD @ Jul 31 2023 07:33am)
Do you know how to read? I said your "you're entire financial situation essentially relied on Canada's Old age security and GIS which is exactly, hey I'm poor government please take care of me."


Again, you are confusing the present and the future. Maybe I will need OAS/GIS one day, maybe. But that does not mean I am currently on them. You need to grow some brain cells lol.

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I am well aware of the age restrictions of OAS.

Again, first sentence, couldn't make it past.

At least try to open the post with something not dumb so I can make it to the next line.


Lol you keep calling me dumb but you can't stop talking to me.
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Jul 31 2023 08:44am
Quote (JessiWan @ Jul 31 2023 08:35am)
Again, you are confusing the present and the future. Maybe I will need OAS/GIS one day, maybe. But that does not mean I am currently on them. You need to grow some brain cells lol.



Lol you keep calling me dumb but you can't stop talking to me.


Yes but its a stance which is the core to the argument, not if you're on it or not right now.

You cant make this stuff up.
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Yes but its a stance which is the core to the argument, not if you're on it or not right now.

You cant make this stuff up.


You call me dumb but you can't stop talking to me, :)

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Jul 31 2023 08:49am
Quote (Malopox @ Jul 31 2023 03:14pm)
Says WEF?

Testosterone and our male genetics makes us prone to artery problems, high blood pressure and heart failures. After you've stopped growing (around 21-25) iron and other heavy metals keep accumulating (also in brain) unless you donate blood regularly. Then you can eat 2x meat per weak. The fat that comes with meat has got the bad type of cholesterol known for blockages over time. Children need 2-4x meat per week with LOTs of animal fat for normal brain development. Women need more due to their period every month which results in blood loss and loss of iron. The period is also used by the body to get rid of the excess of harmful tissue + toxins. We, men, don't have that mechanism. There was a time, beef was a good source of B12 for us but when the food industry went on intensifying its farming the soil didn't have enough B12 to be naturally available in cows. They feed them extra now (artificially). The other pressing issue is the environment pollution. The bigger the animal or higher on food chain, the more toxic stuff gets accumulated in their bodies (mostly liver but also everywhere else). Eating small fish is much safer than tuna for example, eating chicken or even better, eggs, is better than eating beef often.

I always wonder why climate activist and green movements go to extremes instead of telling the truth? BTW, children absolutely need animal fats.

Sources:
https://www.nih.gov/news-events/nih-research-matters/eating-red-meat-daily-triples-heart-disease-related-chemical
https://www.healthline.com/health-news/excessive-iron-in-the-brain-may-be-a-factor-in-alzheimers-disease
http://eerainuh.com/supplementation-of-vitamin-b12-in-cattle-and-sheep-to-prevent-deficiency/
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33786470/
https://wyethnutritionsc.org/sites/default/files/2019-11/Ryan%20Carvalho%2C%20MD%20-%20The%20Fats%20of%20life%20in%20early%20childhood%20brain%20development_3.pdf
https://sharkresearch.earth.miami.edu/bioaccumulation-biomagnification-when-bigger-isnt-better/

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Jul 31 2023 08:50am
The Residential Schools were a good thing

We took completely uneducated savages and by our own mercy, spent our own resources to educate and civilize them instead of murdering them like every other nation did
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Jul 31 2023 09:03am
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Testosterone and our male genetics makes us prone to artery problems, high blood pressure and heart failures. After you've stopped growing (around 21-25) iron and other heavy metals keep accumulating (also in brain) unless you donate blood regularly. Then you can eat 2x meat per weak. The fat that comes with meat has got the bad type of cholesterol known for blockages over time. Children need 2-4x meat per week with LOTs of animal fat for normal brain development. Women need more due to their period every month which results in blood loss and loss of iron. The period is also used by the body to get rid of the excess of harmful tissue + toxins. We, men, don't have that mechanism. There was a time, beef was a good source of B12 for us but when the food industry went on intensifying its farming the soil didn't have enough B12 to be naturally available in cows. They feed them extra now (artificially). The other pressing issue is the environment pollution. The bigger the animal or higher on food chain, the more toxic stuff gets accumulated in their bodies (mostly liver but also everywhere else). Eating small fish is much safer than tuna for example, eating chicken or even better, eggs, is better than eating beef often.

I always wonder why climate activist and green movements go to extremes instead of telling the truth? BTW, children absolutely need animal fats.

Sources:
https://www.nih.gov/news-events/nih-research-matters/eating-red-meat-daily-triples-heart-disease-related-chemical
https://www.healthline.com/health-news/excessive-iron-in-the-brain-may-be-a-factor-in-alzheimers-disease
http://eerainuh.com/supplementation-of-vitamin-b12-in-cattle-and-sheep-to-prevent-deficiency/
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33786470/
https://wyethnutritionsc.org/sites/default/files/2019-11/Ryan%20Carvalho%2C%20MD%20-%20The%20Fats%20of%20life%20in%20early%20childhood%20brain%20development_3.pdf
https://sharkresearch.earth.miami.edu/bioaccumulation-biomagnification-when-bigger-isnt-better/


This is very interesting. I’ll read up on that. Thanks.

would also be interested I think.

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Jul 31 2023 09:10am
Quote (ofthevoid @ Jul 31 2023 09:08am)
That's because most forgot what hunger actually looks like. It's not perfect, but if the choice is between the large corpos feeding us or Seattle's CHAZ garden filled with organic veggies enough to feed 9 people, I know which I'd choose.


we're set on a path that largely presents a false binary. abject hunger or entirely profit driven food production. luckily people are smarter than that and starting to force the market to offer alternatives, elsewise we were headed towards a reality where no one but a very small number even had options for healthier food alternatives to name brand labels. still the most realistic path to healthier food is self production, which is hard and time consuming but worth it. but even organic label foods are being corporatized and subject to issues like monocropping and other problems.

honestly if you have a stable life and a moderate income you should seek to rid yourself of as much corporatized food as possible, it's a privilege that comes with not being poor.
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Jul 31 2023 09:22am
Quote (thesnipa @ Jul 31 2023 11:10am)
we're set on a path that largely presents a false binary. abject hunger or entirely profit driven food production. luckily people are smarter than that and starting to force the market to offer alternatives, elsewise we were headed towards a reality where no one but a very small number even had options for healthier food alternatives to name brand labels. still the most realistic path to healthier food is self production, which is hard and time consuming but worth it. but even organic label foods are being corporatized and subject to issues like monocropping and other problems.

honestly if you have a stable life and a moderate income you should seek to rid yourself of as much corporatized food as possible, it's a privilege that comes with not being poor.


I don't think this is true or can be achieved. Something like 75-80% of people in the US live in urban or suburban environments. I have a garden at home of like 150-200sq ft and sure it's nice to have homegrown tomatoes, cucumbers, peppers, herbs, but if I had to rely on it solely to survive I would die within a month. Community gardens are great but they are supplemental in nature and can never really replace wholesale food needs the way our cities are setup now.

I agree with you somewhat, I think self-sufficiency is really nice, and my wife and I are currently trying to buy a home with at least like half an acre but even then, to assume if 2/3 of that is be allocated to some food production, we'd still starve to death if only relying on it. She comes from a farm-family and they had about 30 acres, yeah that's actually realistic if you want to be self sufficient but what % of Americans can actually secure even 1/10th of that living in or around a city? Not even going to mention how work intensive and time consuming it would be to cultivate and going through the whole process would be.
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