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Nah, it's literally just looking at the facts presented.
I get when you do that it's uncomfortable but you have to do it.
Blacks are undeniably still oppressed and murdered by police in America.
Trans people are a tiny minority oppressing basically nobody and the entire issue is a blatant fabrication in contrast to best medical practices.
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Just to be clear, I could literally use this argument to condemn Jews defending themselves in Nazi Germany. You know that right?
The position you laid out here is that literally nobody can ever be right about anything, because somebody else disagrees that their rights are legitimate.
I just think you should think about that. You've been making a lot of arguments lately that would literally defend Hitler.
I did not claim that violence is never justified. Direct self-defense is an obvious exception. Furthermore, I don't even claim that there exist no circumstances under which political violence could ever be legitimate. All I said was that one side declaring their talking points to be the universal truth is not a sufficient justification for violence. In this specific case, there is no broad consensus on the existence of "
systemic racism" (at least not in the way the contemporary lefty discourse understands it), and you will have a hard time arguing that peaceful approaches had already been exhausted by the time the BLM riots broke out.
Case in point: I would argue that Democrats' win in 2020 would have been larger if the Floyd protests had remained peaceful throughout. The looting, violence and the imagery of burning buildings allowed Trump and the GOP to muddy the waters on an issue on which the left/Democrats/black people initially had the undeniable moral high ground. They succeeded in making public opinion on BLM ultimately fall along the usual partisan lines, which imho allowed them to avoid electoral disaster. Without "fiery but mostly peaceful", chances are that you get a Dem majority post-2020 in which Biden has the votes to enact far more of the Democratic agenda.
This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Jun 7 2023 09:34pm