Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ May 22 2023 09:51pm)
Bruh, you quoted answers in genesis. You don't get to criticize anybody for not being a scholar, you'll listen to the bottom of the barrel of christian apologetics.
I don't, the bible says it explicitly though. I don't believe in the bible because it says stupid shit like ash and dirt from the temple floor will cause a miscarriage.
ok so no abortion
Quote (Plaguefear @ May 22 2023 08:36pm)
Exodus 21:22-25 "Woman with child" affirms that before birth the fetus is a child separate and apart from the mother. Verse 23 states that, according to Old Testament Law, if a child is born prematurely and dies due to harm inflicted upon the child's mother, then the penalty for murder is imposed upon the individual causing harm to the woman. Do you think this would include an abortionist if we were living under the Old Testament Law?
Hi this is a great question i will be happy to answer..
Under old testament they use an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth..
The punishment for murdering a woman in exodus is death.
The punishment for making her miscarry is a fine.
Exodus does NOT see the fetus as a person.
Numbers ALSO gives direct instructions on WHEN to abort and HOW to do so..
How come you missed this in your write up?
11 Then the Lord spoke to Moses, saying,
12 “Speak to the sons of Israel and say to them, ‘If any man’s wife agoes astray and is unfaithful to him,
13 and a man has aintercourse with her and it is hidden from the eyes of her husband and she is 1undetected, although she has defiled herself, and there is no witness against her and she has not been caught in the act,
14 1if a spirit of ajealousy comes over him and he is jealous of his wife when she has defiled herself, or if a spirit of jealousy comes over him and he is jealous of his wife when she has not defiled herself,
15 the man shall then bring his wife to the priest, and shall bring as 1an offering for her one-tenth of an 2ephah of barley meal; he shall not pour oil on it nor put frankincense on it, for it is a grain offering of jealousy, a grain offering of memorial, aa reminder of iniquity.
16 ‘Then the priest shall bring her near and have her stand before the Lord,
17 and the priest shall take holy water in an earthenware vessel; and 1he shall take some of the dust that is on the floor of the tabernacle and put it into the water.
18 ‘The priest shall then have the woman stand before the Lord and let the hair of the woman’s head go loose, and place the grain offering of memorial 1in her hands, which is the grain offering of jealousy, and in the hand of the priest is to be the water of bitterness that brings a curse.
19 ‘The priest shall have her take an oath and shall say to the woman, “If no man has lain with you and if you have not agone astray into uncleanness, being under the authority of your husband, be 1immune to this water of bitterness that brings a curse;
20 if you, however, have agone astray, being under the authority of your husband, and if you have defiled yourself and a man other than your husband has had intercourse with you”
21 (then the priest shall have the woman aswear with the oath of the curse, and the priest shall say to the woman), “the Lord make you a curse and an oath among your people by the Lord’s making your thigh 1waste away and your abdomen swell;
22 and this water that brings a curse shall go into your 1stomach, and make your abdomen swell and your thigh 2waste away.” And the woman ashall say, “Amen. Amen.”
23 ‘The priest shall then write these curses on a scroll, and he shall 1wash them off into the water of bitterness.
24 ‘Then he shall make the woman drink the water of bitterness that brings a curse, so that the water which brings a curse will go into her 1and cause bitterness.
25 ‘The priest shall take the grain offering of jealousy from the woman’s hand, and he shall wave the grain offering before the Lord and bring it to the altar;
26 and athe priest shall take a handful of the grain offering as its memorial offering and offer it up in smoke on the altar, and afterward he shall make the woman drink the water.
27 ‘When he has made her drink the water, then it shall come about, if she has defiled herself and has been unfaithful to her husband, that the water which brings a curse will go into her 1and cause bitterness, and her abdomen will swell and her thigh will 2waste away, and the woman will become aa curse among her people.
28 ‘But if the woman has not defiled herself and is clean, she will then be free and conceive 1children.
29 ‘This is the law of jealousy: when a wife, being under the authority of her husband, agoes astray and defiles herself,
30 or when a spirit of jealousy comes over a man and he is jealous of his wife, he shall then make the woman stand before the Lord, and the priest shall apply all this law to her.
31 ‘Moreover, the man will be free from 1guilt, but that woman shall abear her 1guilt.’ ”
This is straight from the bible, if you tell me this is not direct support for abortion i am going to strongly disagree.
Also, abortion was in common use in those times and you are telling me a book that strongly condemns it never mentions it once (aside from this direction to do it) when they literally have pages about what shellfish and birds you are allowed to eat?
Never owls btw, bible is VERY clear on never eating owls.
one take away you can get from the bitter waters ordeal is the jews were serious about the sanctity of marriage. unlike lefties who are just a bunch of sluts