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Mar 27 2023 06:53pm
Quote (IceMage @ Mar 27 2023 07:43pm)
This argument is unpersuasive to me, because most people are not masterminds, particularly most of the shooters I can remember from recent events. The Vegas shooter was an anomaly, but more recent events show young men who sought rifles, got them, and killed a bunch of kids/adults. There were proposed laws which could have prevented that, or at least slowed it down.


I think even the non-masterminds could figure out how to drive a truck into a crowd. I mean we're still talking about 0.001% of the 99.999% of gun deaths that are suicides, gang violence, accidents or other mundane crime. But for the very few who are motivated enough to preplan their attacks and write manifestos and recon their targets and whatnot, I'd say that the emphasis on guns has probably saved lives. Yes not everyone is going to be able to make a bomb or poison a food supply, but between the far more deadly nature of ramming attacks and potential for arson, the fact the vast majority of these shooters get less people killed than the bus crash in Mecca today you didn't hear about, says something.
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Mar 27 2023 06:57pm
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2023/03/27/covenant-school-shooting-nashville-live-updates/11549814002/

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Drake said officers found written material along with a map describing how the assault would unfold, as well as a plan to shoot up a different Nashville school that Hale scrapped because of “too much security.’’




Putting armed guards in schools would be a major fix and one that could be implemented overnight
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Mar 27 2023 07:04pm
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I think even the non-masterminds could figure out how to drive a truck into a crowd. I mean we're still talking about 0.001% of the 99.999% of gun deaths that are suicides, gang violence, accidents or other mundane crime. But for the very few who are motivated enough to preplan their attacks and write manifestos and recon their targets and whatnot, I'd say that the emphasis on guns has probably saved lives. Yes not everyone is going to be able to make a bomb or poison a food supply, but between the far more deadly nature of ramming attacks and potential for arson, the fact the vast majority of these shooters get less people killed than the bus crash in Mecca today you didn't hear about, says something.


If we really wanted to make an impact in gun deaths we would start actually using laws already on the books, charge, and punish people caught stealing guns, people in possession of stolen guns, felons caught in possession of a gun, and enhancements for having a gun during the commission of a crime.
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Mar 27 2023 07:10pm
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Mar 27 2023 07:11pm
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If we really wanted to make an impact in gun deaths we would start actually using laws already on the books, charge, and punish people caught stealing guns, people in possession of stolen guns, felons caught in possession of a gun, and enhancements for having a gun during the commission of a crime.


and you'd find this weird phenomenon where liberals screech loudly about how they want to tighten gun laws, but conservatives actually want to enforce the gun laws we have and liberals don't want to, and the mundane violent crime that is 10000x as common as these high profile outliers will continue to fester unchecked.
weird bit of american politics. Dems didn't even have a clue this would be about a tranny killing christian kids when they started railing against guns while the bodies were still warm, but if you actually try to sit them down and find ways to enforce gun laws and lock dangerous criminals up suddenly its free playtime for jailbirds. And that's how we wound up with two teens getting a 2 year sentence in juvie for breaking into a woman's home and shooting her to death in cold blood
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Mar 27 2023 07:14pm
Quote (fender @ Mar 27 2023 08:10pm)



Typical libtard and like usual wrong

https://medlineplus.gov/ency/article/001915.htm
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Mar 27 2023 07:17pm
Oh my lord look at the conversation taking place when we have a true act of political violence when committed by the “good guys”.

This is fucking incredible y’all keep going :bonk:
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Mar 27 2023 07:19pm
Quote (Santara @ 28 Mar 2023 02:15)
I said mass shootings, not school.


No. We are talking about these crimes of passions which can be religious, politic, or affective. Usually done by 1 person. We are NOT talking about the drug/money crimes done by gangs/criminal organizations.
These people are usually isolated and don't have a network to give them the weapons in countries where firearms are heavily regulated.

You still did the amalgamation.

With an axe, a Japanese saber; or a flail (yay!)... You will kill much more slowly. Mostly: You know you may even end up facing the police which is armed. Finally you would even end up in abandonning the little project (planned long in advance or not) considering the required "effort".
Days or months later you may also figure out by yourself it was a terrible idea, eventually.

But when you have such instant easy access... Ok ?
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Mar 27 2023 07:20pm
Quote (tman65ky @ 27 Mar 2023 21:14)
Typical libtard and like usual wrong

https://medlineplus.gov/ency/article/001915.htm

the number one killer of Jewish people in the 20th century were fender’s ancestors

the number one starter of World Wars were also fender’s ancestors.
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