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Mar 17 2023 09:23pm
Quote (TiStuff @ Mar 17 2023 08:18pm)

Ok? It's a sewer with gas in it.

China has a space station, and subways that look like this:

America has subways that look like this: https://twitter.com/trench_baby24/status/1608501145386762242

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Mar 17 2023 09:42pm
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Murica!

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Mar 17 2023 09:47pm
I feel the urge to help, anyone got any gasoline?
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Mar 17 2023 10:16pm
Honestly I envy the French and the society they have

They seem united

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Mar 17 2023 10:40pm
Quote (kusotarre1 @ Mar 17 2023 08:23pm)
Ok? It's a sewer with gas in it.

China has a space station, and subways that look like this: https://i.imgur.com/9PoVRuE.png

America has subways that look like this: https://twitter.com/trench_baby24/status/1608501145386762242


who responsible for expression, Tofu-dreg project

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Murica!

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actually it would be 2nd world nation which one could argue is worse.
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who responsible for expression, Tofu-dreg project

:rolleyes: Sure, China built some awful buildings 30 or 40 years ago. Now, they don't.

You can scour the internet for every bad story about China. Surprised you didn't jump to the obvious one to and bring up the tainted formula scandal from 2008.

But this conversation is about political imagination and making a better future. China unambiguously does that, whereas broad swaths of the populations in Western countries regularly answer in polls that they feel their lives will only get worse. That their children will be poorer than they are.

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/07/21/many-americans-think-children-will-be-financially-worse-off-than-their-parents.html
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More than two-thirds (68%) of U.S. respondents said they think today’s children will be financially worse off as adults than their parents, up from 60% in 2019. Only 32% think children will be better off.


https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/young-canadians-less-confident-in-financial-future-than-a-year-ago-rbc-poll-1.1887274
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A new poll by RBC has found that Canadians aged 18 to 34 are much less confident today about their financial futures than they were a year ago.

Eighteen per cent of Canadians in that age group said they are confident in their financial future, down from 31 per cent a year earlier.


Contrast that to China: https://global.chinadaily.com.cn/a/201809/25/WS5ba97ba7a310c4cc775e7d4b.html
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Ipsos, a France-headquartered research firm, said in a press release that it conducted 40,506 interviews between July 9 and Aug. 22 in 15 countries including Australia, Brazil, China, France, Germany, Britain, India, Mexico, Russia and the United States.

The study found that Chinese adults and youth are the most optimistic across the study about the future of their country with 88 percent of adults and 94 percent of youth. Towards the future of the world, they also show relative optimism with 85 percent of adults and 90 percent of youth.


Your inclination to try and tear others down by scouring the internet for years or even decades old nonsense is a very Western attitude. Since very few Westerners can honestly say that they expect the politicians to represent them, that they expect their children to be happy and safe, that they expect to retire securely and enjoy old age, the best sort of palliative they can come up with is to demonize people who are trying to do better.

When China has a problem, it addresses it, it improves. That just doesn't happen in the West, anymore.
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The study found that Chinese adults and youth are the most optimistic across the study about the future of their country with 88 percent of adults and 94 percent of youth. Towards the future of the world, they also show relative optimism with 85 percent of adults and 90 percent of youth.



Yeah, that's cause you're not allowed to disagree, not because it's true.

This post was edited by Ghot on Mar 17 2023 11:41pm
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^kusotarre1





Yeah, that's cause you're not allowed to disagree, not because it's true.


Those are coffee spatting numbers.
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:rolleyes: Sure, China built some awful buildings 30 or 40 years ago. Now, they don't.

You can scour the internet for every bad story about China. Surprised you didn't jump to the obvious one to ^DizzyBusiness and bring up the tainted formula scandal from 2008.

But this conversation is about political imagination and making a better future. China unambiguously does that, whereas broad swaths of the populations in Western countries regularly answer in polls that they feel their lives will only get worse. That their children will be poorer than they are.

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/07/21/many-americans-think-children-will-be-financially-worse-off-than-their-parents.html


https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/young-canadians-less-confident-in-financial-future-than-a-year-ago-rbc-poll-1.1887274


Contrast that to China: https://global.chinadaily.com.cn/a/201809/25/WS5ba97ba7a310c4cc775e7d4b.html


Your inclination to try and tear others down by scouring the internet for years or even decades old nonsense is a very Western attitude. Since very few Westerners can honestly say that they expect the politicians to represent them, that they expect their children to be happy and safe, that they expect to retire securely and enjoy old age, the best sort of palliative they can come up with is to demonize people who are trying to do better.

When China has a problem, it addresses it, it improves. That just doesn't happen in the West, anymore.


look at the quote #85 i have already made an admission where things look like they are headed in my response to DizzyBusiness "actually it would be 2nd world nation which one could argue is worse."............ i am not the propagandist thats what you are, obviously.....
The Making Of 'Gutter Oil'
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Mar 18 2023 08:11am
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look at the quote #85 i have already made an admission where things look like they are headed in my response to DizzyBusiness "actually it would be 2nd world nation which one could argue is worse."............ i am not the propagandist thats what you are, obviously.....
The Making Of 'Gutter Oil'
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Chinese cooking hmm miam miam !!
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