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Dec 6 2020 02:39pm
Quote (Metalwise4u @ 6 Dec 2020 21:33)


Considering how incredibly inept Giuliani has been, this might be a net positive for Trump's legal challenges.
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Quote (excellence @ Dec 6 2020 12:02pm)
oh dear

the fella who has been wrong about everything is the right guy this time. “Congress sucks so elect a lifelong senator as chief executive” :lol:


Democrats want to have zero prisons. Republicans just want black people killed by police. I'm a centrist so I think locking black people up is the most responsible thing. IMO, Biden was right about that.

Quote (Black XistenZ @ Dec 6 2020 12:31pm)
I wonder how much of this is due to strategic considerations rather than personal cowardice. The Georgia runoffs will determine control of the Senate, a Democratic trifecta is still on the table. And since runoffs are always decided by base turnout, the GOP is in a position where the consequences of "losing" the base by publicly turning on Trump would be monumental. This is simply not the moment to fight out internal divisions.


I'm sure it's strategic in that they are scared that Trump is going to fuck it all up. But hey, they put party before country so this isn't surprising.
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Democrats want to have zero prisons. Republicans just want black people killed by police. I'm a centrist so I think locking black people up is the most responsible thing. IMO, Biden was right about that.


Blacks killed by police in 2019: 10

Blacks killed by blacks in 2019: 10,000
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Dec 6 2020 03:06pm
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Comparing antifa with either of those groups just exposes you as clueless



I think the effect is quite the opposite. If you think politically motivated extremist groups are good on one side bad on the other. I think that makes you clueless
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Blacks killed by police in 2019: 10

Blacks killed by blacks in 2019: 10,000


Children raped by non-priests: hundreds of thousands

Children raped by priests in the US: multiple orders of magnitude less

If you don't understand why someone in a position of authority doing it is worse than the average Joe...I can't help you.
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Dec 6 2020 04:01pm
Quote (thundercock @ 6 Dec 2020 15:44)
Democrats want to have zero prisons. Republicans just want black people killed by police. I'm a centrist so I think locking black people up is the most responsible thing. IMO, Biden was right about that.



I'm sure it's strategic in that they are scared that Trump is going to fuck it all up. But hey, they put party before country so this isn't surprising.

everyone puts party before country. how else did we end up with free universal affordable healthcare that no one can afford
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Children raped by non-priests: hundreds of thousands

Children raped by priests in the US: multiple orders of magnitude less

If you don't understand why someone in a position of authority doing it is worse than the average Joe...I can't help you.


I follow the science, thanks
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Dec 6 2020 04:35pm
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I follow the science, thanks


Not a statistical argument.
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Dec 6 2020 05:09pm
Quote (thundercock @ Dec 6 2020 05:35pm)
Not a statistical argument.


For me 10 just doesnt seem to compare to 10000.

Just like how schools commit like 10x more rapes than priests. Especially since most of the catholic church stuff was just gay priests hooking up with each other at like age 16.
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Quote (thundercock @ Dec 6 2020 02:59pm)
There's no doubt that a significant portion of the country does not live in reality. I think it's more of a right wing problem than a left wing though when you look at who holds the power. Ideally, these lunatics will simply become disengaged from politics once everything becomes boring again. I mean, it's pretty amazing that only 25 GOP members of Congress can admit that Biden won the election. Most are too scared to admit the obvious truth and there's a select few who legitimately believe that Trump won. These people are legitimately dangerous.

As for unity, I've been saying for years that MOST people would like the opposition destroyed. You can infer that quite easily through Congress' approval rating versus local Congressional approval ratings. Having said that, our elected officials should do their best to be above it all and I think Biden is the right man for the job there. Hyperpolarization is easily one of our greatest national security threats.


We're at a bad point in our history. Liberals couldn't stomach Trump's election as it represented a repudiation of the "end of history" (apologies to Fukuyama) that they had envisioned. Now we're seeing the same in reverse. The establishment players right now are undoubtably the most competent, but they clearly have no vision for the country's future. We need to weather the storm and wait for the collapse of this two party system.
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