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Dec 6 2020 01:59pm
Quote (bogie160 @ Dec 6 2020 10:56am)
As you hate them. You're incredibly bitter. I think you need to recognize that when you jumped off the deep end and followed the Russian collusion conspiracy theory down the rabbit hole, you created a lot of animosity on the other side. It's going to take time for that to heal.

You can call yourself what you like, but from a policy standpoint you are firmly a member of the establishment wing within Democratic party.

The Kafka-esque hysteria on the left, whether its "white fragility", the 1619 project, or the ideological purges within academia, are fundamentally threats to neo-liberalism. News journalists forsaking objectivity for advocacy threatens neo-liberalism. It's a far greater long-term threat than a bunch of poor, working class whites without a shred of institutional power. And yet it's to that demographic that you direct all of this anger and resentment.


There's no doubt that a significant portion of the country does not live in reality. I think it's more of a right wing problem than a left wing though when you look at who holds the power. Ideally, these lunatics will simply become disengaged from politics once everything becomes boring again. I mean, it's pretty amazing that only 25 GOP members of Congress can admit that Biden won the election. Most are too scared to admit the obvious truth and there's a select few who legitimately believe that Trump won. These people are legitimately dangerous.

As for unity, I've been saying for years that MOST people would like the opposition destroyed. You can infer that quite easily through Congress' approval rating versus local Congressional approval ratings. Having said that, our elected officials should do their best to be above it all and I think Biden is the right man for the job there. Hyperpolarization is easily one of our greatest national security threats.
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Dec 6 2020 02:01pm
Quote (Landmine @ Dec 6 2020 11:55am)
So what’s your argument? So isis and then Americans with American flags are some how a side to side comparison?

Is the killing of OBL the reasoning for the downfall of ISIS?

Also was it the majority of the Republican Party wanting to stay in the Middle East or was it the rhinos such as McCain?


Trump caravans are pretty damn close comparison.. mixing religion and politics as they drive from city to city showing support via guns and or "branding" hoping to intimidate people into their views.. ya it's a bit close.

No OBL is not the downfall of ISIS..

For so long the republican position was the US HAD to have a stabilizing military force in the middle east was so synonymous with the entire party, I have no idea how to go back in time and separate every person's position. Was for years a 24-7 talking point of FOX etc. i remember being called unpatriotic for not wanting US Soldiers over there.. The subject has done a total 180.. Pretty much like the deficit.
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Dec 6 2020 02:02pm
Quote (thundercock @ 6 Dec 2020 14:59)
There's no doubt that a significant portion of the country does not live in reality. I think it's more of a right wing problem than a left wing though when you look at who holds the power. Ideally, these lunatics will simply become disengaged from politics once everything becomes boring again. I mean, it's pretty amazing that only 25 GOP members of Congress can admit that Biden won the election. Most are too scared to admit the obvious truth and there's a select few who legitimately believe that Trump won. These people are legitimately dangerous.

As for unity, I've been saying for years that MOST people would like the opposition destroyed. You can infer that quite easily through Congress' approval rating versus local Congressional approval ratings. Having said that, our elected officials should do their best to be above it all and I think Biden is the right man for the job there. Hyperpolarization is easily one of our greatest national security threats.

oh dear

the fella who has been wrong about everything is the right guy this time. “Congress sucks so elect a lifelong senator as chief executive” :lol:
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Dec 6 2020 02:03pm
Quote (excellence @ Dec 6 2020 11:57am)
biden was against the raid that led to OBL’s killing and advised against doing it, per President Obama


fucking just say it man the truth will set you free!!!
lol did it happen during Obama or NOT?
man this shit is ridic.
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Quote (theCrossbones @ Dec 6 2020 01:01pm)
Trump caravans are pretty damn close comparison.. mixing religion and politics as they drive from city to city showing support via guns and or "branding" hoping to intimidate people into their views.. ya it's a bit close.

No OBL is not the downfall of ISIS..

For so long the republican position was the US HAD to have a stabilizing military force in the middle east was so synonymous with the entire party, I have no idea how to go back in time and separate every person's position. Was for years a 24-7 talking point of FOX etc. i remember being called unpatriotic for not wanting US Soldiers over there.. The subject has done a total 180.. Pretty much like the deficit.



Isn’t Antifa doing the same thing, but with political support? The shutting down of freedom of speech, the censorship of political figures and book burning of those that don’t follow the new liberal ideology or speak against the tyrannical actions of the left.

Have building not been burned, looted and destroyed? Have people not been harmed and killed by these radical groups?

Would the movement of right wing individuals even come into play if the actions of the left didn’t call for the destruction of those who don’t follow their views?

This post was edited by Landmine on Dec 6 2020 02:09pm
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Isn’t Antifa doing the same thing, but with political support. The shutting down of freedom of speech, the censorship of political figures and book burning of those that don’t follow the new liberal ideology or speak against the tyrannical actions of the left.

Have building not been burned, looted and destroyed. Have people not been harmed and killed by these radical groups?

Would the movement of right wing individuals even come into play if the actions of the left didn’t call for the destruction of those who don’t follow their views?


yea- im not a big fan of the antifa bs either. Its not really hard to say it.. try it.

R wing groups have been around forever. McVeigh? Bundy etc.. don't pin it as reactionary. Its not
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Dec 6 2020 02:16pm
Quote (theCrossbones @ Dec 6 2020 01:10pm)
yea- im not a big fan of the antifa bs either. Its not really hard to say it.. try it.

R wing groups have been around forever. McVeigh? Bundy etc.. don't pin it as reactionary. Its not



What am I supposed to say? Do I care if obl was killed during Obama? If anything it helped ISIS. Just as the murder of Saddam it was a terrible move.

It’s reactionary, Don’t act like it’s not.

This has all been a reaction to the left losing the 2016 election. The last 4 years have been chaos on the streets, because of the left. Don’t want to hear non sense about anything before the 90s, because these so called tyrannical right wing or talk of the boogeyman( the kkk) are groups that have died out.

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Dec 6 2020 02:31pm
Quote (thundercock @ 6 Dec 2020 20:59)
There's no doubt that a significant portion of the country does not live in reality. I think it's more of a right wing problem than a left wing though when you look at who holds the power. Ideally, these lunatics will simply become disengaged from politics once everything becomes boring again. I mean, it's pretty amazing that only 25 GOP members of Congress can admit that Biden won the election. Most are too scared to admit the obvious truth and there's a select few who legitimately believe that Trump won. These people are legitimately dangerous.

As for unity, I've been saying for years that MOST people would like the opposition destroyed. You can infer that quite easily through Congress' approval rating versus local Congressional approval ratings. Having said that, our elected officials should do their best to be above it all and I think Biden is the right man for the job there. Hyperpolarization is easily one of our greatest national security threats.


I wonder how much of this is due to strategic considerations rather than personal cowardice. The Georgia runoffs will determine control of the Senate, a Democratic trifecta is still on the table. And since runoffs are always decided by base turnout, the GOP is in a position where the consequences of "losing" the base by publicly turning on Trump would be monumental. This is simply not the moment to fight out internal divisions.
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Quote (theCrossbones @ Dec 6 2020 03:10pm)
yea- im not a big fan of the antifa bs either. Its not really hard to say it.. try it.

R wing groups have been around forever. McVeigh? Bundy etc.. don't pin it as reactionary. Its not


Comparing antifa with either of those groups just exposes you as clueless

This post was edited by EndlessSky on Dec 6 2020 02:33pm
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