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Dec 6 2020 12:41pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Dec 6 2020 12:49pm)
Over the years, you said, on multiple occasions, something along the lines of "the Republican party of Trump is rotten to the core and needs to be burned to the ground before a serious conservative party can arise from its ashes". You made it very clear that you consider the political position or preference of 47% of the country to be not just misguided, but fundamentally illegitimate. And then you have the gall of calling for unity.


"You disagree strongly with most right-wingers and Republicans, therefore you aren't allowed to call for a more united country".

Again, this is silly argumentation. It makes no sense at all. And I don't know that I've ever described a preference for Republicans as illegitimate.

This silliness demonstrates just how offensive the idea of unity in this country is to you guys. You have to twist yourself into a pretzel to argue against someone calling for it.

This post was edited by IceMage on Dec 6 2020 12:43pm
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Quote (IceMage @ 6 Dec 2020 12:37)
This is truly a silly discussion. Now we're conflating my political preferences with my calls for more unity in the country? They are separate issues. You guys keep making shit up.

your political preference is a being a math and science-denying privileged lefty who votes for anti-American candidates and suddenly wants to unify with a group you called “national-socialists and deplorables” for 4+ years

they aren’t separate issues. keep making shit up because you sound like pollster 2.0 only less informed and more delusional lmfao, pathetic..

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your political preference is a being a math and science-denying privileged lefty who votes for anti-American candidates and suddenly wants to unify with a group you called “national-socialists and deplorables” for 4+ years

they aren’t separate issues.


All the people you voted for in 2020 are currently denying the electoral math. :thumbsup:
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Dec 6 2020 12:49pm
Quote (IceMage @ Dec 6 2020 10:44am)
All the people you voted for in 2020 are currently denying the electoral math. :thumbsup:


LOL
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Dec 6 2020 12:50pm
Quote (IceMage @ 6 Dec 2020 13:44)
All the people you voted for in 2020 are currently denying the electoral math. :thumbsup:

you were happy with gore and hillary exploring legal avenues to ensure the authenticity of the election but now its an issue for you lmfao, pathetic..

all the people you voted for in 2016 and 2020 are still denying the math from 2016 :thumbsup:

keep at it pollster junior
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Dec 6 2020 12:53pm
Quote (excellence @ Dec 6 2020 10:50am)
you were happy with gore and hillary exploring legal avenues to ensure the authenticity of the election but now its an issue for you lmfao, pathetic..

all the people you voted for in 2016 and 2020 are still denying the math from 2016 :thumbsup:

keep at it pollster junior


a recount was one thing.
are you a hugo chavez dominion guy?
LMFAO
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Dec 6 2020 12:55pm
Quote (excellence @ Dec 6 2020 11:50am)
you were happy with gore and hillary exploring legal avenues to ensure the authenticity of the election but now its an issue for you lmfao, pathetic..

all the people you voted for in 2016 and 2020 are still denying the math from 2016 :thumbsup:

keep at it pollster junior



This post is an absolute truth.
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Dec 6 2020 12:56pm
Quote (IceMage @ Dec 6 2020 09:07am)
I don't think I've done that. You're trying to hint that in my calls for unity, I'm asking Trump supporters to change their policy positions or something. What I've done is ask them to abandon the hatred and anti-Americanism, because if they don't, I'm not sure how they can be part of a more unified country.

So, what are you actually saying? That we must accept as valid their hatred of fellow Americans and anti-American ideas, like stealing an election they lost? Are responsible citizens supposed to meet them halfway on those issues?

I'm not a Democrat, but sure, there's those in the party that are hateful and anti-American. I'm not asking Trump supporters to view those opinions as valid. I don't view leftist historical revisionism(like the 1619 project) in the same bucket as acceptance of a president trying to steal an election. To me, they're on different planets. One is acceptable discourse, the other is completely unacceptable discourse/action.


As you hate them. You're incredibly bitter. I think you need to recognize that when you jumped off the deep end and followed the Russian collusion conspiracy theory down the rabbit hole, you created a lot of animosity on the other side. It's going to take time for that to heal.

You can call yourself what you like, but from a policy standpoint you are firmly a member of the establishment wing within Democratic party.

The Kafka-esque hysteria on the left, whether its "white fragility", the 1619 project, or the ideological purges within academia, are fundamentally threats to neo-liberalism. News journalists forsaking objectivity for advocacy threatens neo-liberalism. It's a far greater long-term threat than a bunch of poor, working class whites without a shred of institutional power. And yet it's to that demographic that you direct all of this anger and resentment.

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Dec 6 2020 12:59pm
Quote (IceMage @ 6 Dec 2020 19:41)
"You disagree strongly with most right-wingers and Republicans, therefore you aren't allowed to call for a more united country".

Again, this is silly argumentation. It makes no sense at all. And I don't know that I've ever described a preference for Republicans as illegitimate.

This silliness demonstrates just how offensive the idea of unity in this country is to you guys. You have to twist yourself into a pretzel to argue against someone calling for it.


You absolutely described a preference for Trump as illegitimate. Just a couple of pages ago, you quite literally wrote "Nikki Haley is ok, but I cant support her because she helped enable Trump". You call large swaths of the electorate deplorable and want anyone associated with Trump to be ostracized. THAT's the reason why your calls for unity ring so hollow and why I cannot take them seriously.

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Quote (theCrossbones @ Dec 6 2020 11:53am)
a recount was one thing.
are you a hugo chavez dominion guy?
LMFAO


I guess you don’t know that Jill Stein in her legal suits also claimed fraudulent issues with voting machines. Where money came from the heavens to support her law suits to discredit the 2016 election.


2016: The time icemage accepted legal disputes to support the integrity of our country. He was just like a little catholic boy on his knees receiving his daily blessings.
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