The only thing on the same scale would be presidents who presided over atrocities.

I think time has already shown Nixon wasnt nearly the villain he was painted as.

wait for it.....

"collusion"
"quid-pro-quo"

This post was edited by tagged4nothing on Oct 22 2020 03:44pm

My eyes have never rolled so hard.

Joe Biden was being paid millions of dollars by Chinese communist party elite in exchange for access and influence. His conspirators were covering it up.

So the claim is that these millions went into some shell company which Biden had access to? Because we can look at his tax returns, unlike the current president. Wouldn't we see something indicating this in his returns?

The messages I quoted were from 2017, so we're supposed to believe during this time Hunter was trying to get the Bidens paid for access and influence in case Biden ran for president and won?

I'll probably have to dive in and review all of this stuff myself to figure out what's going on. To me it seems like there's some outlines of potentially shady stuff from Hunter but it's unclear to me how much Joe Biden is involved and to the extent that anyone can point to solid evidence of access and influence being given by him for money.

Even if he was getting paid in 2017... Hes a private citizen. Taking millions from business between offices is how everybody in government works. Funny how libs can point it out for 20 years and it only gets attention when the conservatives need a scandal

i think bernie wants to solve problems but has the wrong methodology. i dont mind people like that.

Their chinese/ukrainian operations were active when Joe Biden was vice president, back in 2011. We have messages showing Hunter Biden arranging for the same chinese business/party elites to have a white house visit- kept secret and off the books- with Joe Biden in 2011. And he personally took millions from them, routed through shell corporations and offshore accounts that made the accounting opaque, it wouldn't have shown up in his tax returns. Heck, one business document said Joe Biden's 10% share was being added to Hunter Biden's 30% share, and held by Hunter for Joe. And Hunter was grumbling in various emails about how his father took 'half', a bit of self-important whining about how he was doing the work (nevermind it was Joe Biden's influence and name they were cashing in on).
Then we have text messages showing them reminding each other not to say that Joe is involved in texts/emails (oops) and only talk about it face-to-face, because the Bidens were paranoid about someone finding out
dunno how much more shady it gets than that


and that's besides the Burisma stuff- we have texts showing Joe Biden was personally involved with the Burisma negotiations, meeting with them and signing off on the deals himself, before he went to Ukraine and demanded they fire Shokin. After Hunter Biden was told explicitly by Zlochevsky's crew that the reason they were paying him was to stop the investigations into Zlochevsky. And in the past year with that scandal out, Biden has maintained he never knew anything about his son's business ventures and never met anyone from Burisma and Burisma wasn't under investigation by Shokin anyway. So getting exposed in a whole ton of lies there

This post was edited by Goomshill on Oct 22 2020 04:14pm

By that same logic trump not releasing his taxes means there's objectively bad things in there.

Connections of any kind here were going to be reported negatively against Biden. And that predates his potus run as anti Biden is anti Obama and right winged media eats those stories up.

We just live in an era where any high profile figure wants as much off the books as they can. Too much 1 + 1 = 3 connecting these days.

Not saying that means Joe's innocent but if that's as shady as it gets then its a 500 way tie.

This post was edited by thesnipa on Oct 22 2020 04:25pm

https://nypost.com/2020/10/22/hunter-biz-partner-confirms-e-mail-details-joe-bidens-push-to-make-millions-from-china/

https://twitter.com/johnrobertsFox/status/1319363509038219270



The guy with "no political ax to grind" is Trump's guest at the debate.

I think I'll refrain from diving into this story until after the election. Too much sketchiness from the supposed sources of information.