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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Dec 15 2023 12:33am)
That's really the crux. The carrier group the US sent to the Mediterranean immediately after the Oct 7 attack was the key support from the US for Israel, not a billion in aid here or there. The carriers signaled to Iran, Hezbollah, potentially also to Turkey and Egypt, that they shouldn't even think of escalating this conflict into a full-blown war on Israel.

Additionally, the rulers in the Gulf states and Egypt don't actually have any interest in creating a revolutionary or jihadist momentum across the Middle East. Could backfire on themselves far too easily.


completely agree with this.

Quote (gnarjay @ Dec 15 2023 12:41am)
if Israel/Netanyahu werent banking on the US' unwavering support they'd act differently. will we cut our aid? i'd bet never. is the dynamic of the political relationship changing? I think so. I know the US gets away with everything because we are the bullies of the world but realistically how long can we syndicate Israel's psychopathic war and not face consequences ourselves? not long. once the price becomes too high, we will back off. no one is supporting Israel's war outside of the US and it seems that the relationship once built on "shared values" is starting to crack


its quite tricky, tbh it looks inevitable that the war in Israel is going to escalate (no idea how).

This post was edited by ferdia on Dec 14 2023 06:45pm
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Dec 14 2023 07:27pm
Israel estimates the war will last "more than a few months"...
Maybe there's a potential leverage effect, where, once the violences/bombings are becoming a really unacceptable reality for americans, all medias will start to put the burden on personalities/entities as being reponsible, typically: Netanyahu/Likud.
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Israel estimates the war will last "more than a few months"...
Maybe there's a potential leverage effect, where, once the violences/bombings are becoming a really unacceptable reality for americans, all medias will start to put the burden on personalities/entities as being reponsible, typically: Netanyahu/Likud.


Because clearing out the West Bank will take another 2-3 months after Gaza is secured
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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Dec 14 2023 06:33pm)
That's really the crux. The carrier group the US sent to the Mediterranean immediately after the Oct 7 attack was the key support from the US for Israel, not a billion in aid here or there. The carriers signaled to Iran, Hezbollah, potentially also to Turkey and Egypt, that they shouldn't even think of escalating this conflict into a full-blown war on Israel.

Additionally, the rulers in the Gulf states and Egypt don't actually have any interest in creating a revolutionary or jihadist momentum across the Middle East. Could backfire on themselves far too easily.


I've seen a lot of people argue that "they can't go slow and surgical in Gaza. If they lose any soldiers they'll be wiped out by Iran" in defense of bombing civilians and conveniently ignore that we sent a carrier and would immediately declare war on anybody who attacks Israel.
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Quote (El1te @ 15 Dec 2023 02:35)
Because clearing out the West Bank will take another 2-3 months after Gaza is secured


U.S played fool by Israel
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Quote (Meanwhile @ 15 Dec 2023 07:28)
U.S played fool by Israel


Those are the only people that fool you and other progressive liberals


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Dec 15 2023 04:33am
Help me,I can't remember..was it this website where certain users were boasting about how Israel would deal with the houthis?

Because they just backed down:

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Quote (zorzin @ 15 Dec 2023 12:33)
Help me,I can't remember..was it this website where certain users were boasting about how Israel would deal with the houthis?

Because they just backed down:

https://i.postimg.cc/4dQvLq6n/1702612824681249.jpg


The coalition forces are on the way to the red sea
Furthermore I always said and repeat once the war in Gaza end the hutis will be dealt with
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Hamas done survey
On west bank and Gaza
72% percent of the “innocent” respondents in the survey - residents of the West Bank and Gaza, thought that the decision to carry out the operation in Israel is correct.
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Quote (Many_Names @ Dec 15 2023 05:34am)
The coalition forces are on the way to the red sea
Furthermore I always said and repeat once the war in Gaza end the hutis will be dealt with


The coalition forces are a bunch of pussified diversity hires that would shit their pants the moment they saw real combat but who knows maybe they will love dying for israel

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