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Quote (gnarjay @ Dec 14 2023 03:14pm)
if you dont think the protests and social upheaval happening are going to have a political impact on our relations with Israel then I dont know what to tell you bud. you seem to be stuck in the hog echo chamber


I am (i guess i have to remind you) against israeli aid. i'd slash it so much rand paul would get a stiffy. but its not going to happen in any meaningful way. BUT, and this is the part you're skipping conveniently over, it it did it wouldnt make the large scale changes to israeli actions that many people think.

cutting israel's budget monetarily by 3% wont do much of anything in the context of gazan lives. and we will not remove our military alliance with israel regardless of changes to aid $. AND if we did it would end in disaster, perhaps the end of human life on earth.

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Quote (thesnipa @ Dec 14 2023 03:27pm)
the whole discussion of aid removal is illogical for a myriad of reasons. it wont happen,.


Never say never! Also the houthis are claiming another ship lol

maersk gibraltar got heem'd apparently

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I don't know if this picture is real or not but either way I enjoy the propaganda
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Quote (zorzin @ Dec 14 2023 10:29pm)
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I don't know if this picture is real or not but either way I enjoy the propaganda


Hopefully for Yemens sake it is fake. Maersk profit in a single year was 10 billion more than Yemens entire GDP.

Houthis are asking for a little freedom to come there way.
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Roll back the starting date to 1260 :lol:
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anyone else see this news? a Turkish terrorist supporter instantly drops dead after calling for Israel's destruction

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/turkish-mp-who-collapsed-after-saying-israel-will-suffer-allahs-wrath-dies/

And people still deny that God is real :lol:

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Quote (thesnipa @ 14 Dec 2023 22:25)
I am (i guess i have to remind you) against israeli aid. i'd slash it so much rand paul would get a stiffy. but its not going to happen in any meaningful way. BUT, and this is the part you're skipping conveniently over, it it did it wouldnt make the large scale changes to israeli actions that many people think.

cutting israel's budget monetarily by 3% wont do much of anything in the context of gazan lives. and we will not remove our military alliance with israel regardless of changes to aid $. AND if we did it would end in disaster, perhaps the end of human life on earth.


That's really the crux. The carrier group the US sent to the Mediterranean immediately after the Oct 7 attack was the key support from the US for Israel, not a billion in aid here or there. The carriers signaled to Iran, Hezbollah, potentially also to Turkey and Egypt, that they shouldn't even think of escalating this conflict into a full-blown war on Israel.

Additionally, the rulers in the Gulf states and Egypt don't actually have any interest in creating a revolutionary or jihadist momentum across the Middle East. Could backfire on themselves far too easily.

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Quote (thesnipa @ Dec 14 2023 01:25pm)
I am (i guess i have to remind you) against israeli aid. i'd slash it so much rand paul would get a stiffy. but its not going to happen in any meaningful way. BUT, and this is the part you're skipping conveniently over, it it did it wouldnt make the large scale changes to israeli actions that many people think.

cutting israel's budget monetarily by 3% wont do much of anything in the context of gazan lives. and we will not remove our military alliance with israel regardless of changes to aid $. AND if we did it would end in disaster, perhaps the end of human life on earth.


if Israel/Netanyahu werent banking on the US' unwavering support they'd act differently. will we cut our aid? i'd bet never. is the dynamic of the political relationship changing? I think so. I know the US gets away with everything because we are the bullies of the world but realistically how long can we syndicate Israel's psychopathic war and not face consequences ourselves? not long. once the price becomes too high, we will back off. no one is supporting Israel's war outside of the US and it seems that the relationship once built on "shared values" is starting to crack
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