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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Dec 14 2023 01:46pm)
It doesn't even take machine guns or modern weaponry to defend walls. It took nearly 1700 years before anyone was able to overcome the walls of Constantinople, and even that only happened once the Byzantine Empire had hit absolute rock bottom in terms of manpower and economic prowess.


i think you mean Istanbul.
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>War War Z was actually documentary footage circa 2044

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Quote (ofthevoid @ 14 Dec 2023 13:48)
>War War Z was actually documentary footage circa 2044

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Lmao more like 2033 :rofl:

I forgot in the movie the disease comes out of "China" and the cure is somewhere in "Israel" :bouncy:

oh the foreshadowing! :wacko:
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If what you say is true, and the muslim world is teetering on the edge of full on Jihaad, then the chances of US support going away is exactly zero. imo.


You could be right, I would imagine that American support would start in reestablishing Israeli ships passing through in the Red Sea but who knows.
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You could be right, I would imagine that American support would start in reestablishing Israeli ships passing through in the Red Sea but who knows.


honestly the stop supporting israel is just the flavor of the week for the masses of liberals who pick up and abandon causes at breakneck pace. not that conservatives are much better, but they seem to have a bit more resolve in recent memory. give it a few weeks or a month and they'll find a new toy and forget all about 15 billion dollar aid packages in 2024. either they'll have to let it go or risk biden losing to trump, or trump wins and aid to israel is the least of their worries.

the whole discussion of aid removal is illogical for a myriad of reasons. it wont happen, if it does it wont result in changes they think it will, if it did result in that and they got what they think they want we'd have millions of dead jews and muslims, etc. You're not an idiot by my estimation at all, but many people who call for specific actions havent even taken it 1 step down the line, let alone the 4-5 steps you need to.
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honestly the stop supporting israel is just the flavor of the week for the masses of liberals who pick up and abandon causes at breakneck pace. not that conservatives are much better, but they seem to have a bit more resolve in recent memory. give it a few weeks or a month and they'll find a new toy and forget all about 15 billion dollar aid packages in 2024. either they'll have to let it go or risk biden losing to trump, or trump wins and aid to israel is the least of their worries.

the whole discussion of aid removal is illogical for a myriad of reasons. it wont happen, if it does it wont result in changes they think it will, if it did result in that and they got what they think they want we'd have millions of dead jews and muslims, etc. You're not an idiot by my estimation at all, but many people who call for specific actions havent even taken it 1 step down the line, let alone the 4-5 steps you need to.


I take it youve never heard of BDS? lmao. you reaaaaaaally must not be paying attention to how hard our government is making it to boycott Israel. talk about being completely out of touch. yikes

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I take it youve never heard of BDS? lmao. you reaaaaaaally must not be paying attention to how hard our government is making it to boycott Israel. talk about being completely out of touch. yikes


you're just reading what i posted from a slanted perspective to strawman me.

the free palestine movement is OLD, it's not new at all. but support for it, and by extension chances that it leads to serious govt action, ebbs and flows. right now its high, as is the chance that the USA does anything in terms of altering aid. but soon the war will wind down, the casualties will stop exploding, israel will move into occupation mode, and the calls for the biden whitehouse to stop all aid (as if he even can) will die down.

guess what, BLM still exist. the criminal justice reform movement still exists. wallstreet reform still exists, well after occupation ended. etc etc etc.

out of touch, lol. that would mean something if it didnt come from a sniveling middling iq dweeb. you're basically a non-sentient wallstreet journal sound board. i could write a script that emulates your posts using just a half dozen twitter accounts. i couldnt think as little as you if i had a traumatic brain injury. you're the human version of a sticker on a lamp pole.
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you're just reading what i posted from a slanted perspective to strawman me.

the free palestine movement is OLD, it's not new at all. but support for it, and by extension chances that it leads to serious govt action, ebbs and flows. right now its high, as is the chance that the USA does anything in terms of altering aid. but soon the war will wind down, the casualties will stop exploding, israel will move into occupation mode, and the calls for the biden whitehouse to stop all aid (as if he even can) will die down.

guess what, BLM still exist. the criminal justice reform movement still exists. wallstreet reform still exists, well after occupation ended. etc etc etc.

out of touch, lol. that would mean something if it didnt come from a sniveling middling iq dweeb. you're basically a non-sentient wallstreet journal sound board. i could write a script that emulates your posts using just a half dozen twitter accounts. i couldnt think as little as you if i had a traumatic brain injury. you're the human version of a sticker on a lamp pole.



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"honestly the stop supporting israel is just the flavor of the week for the masses of liberals who pick up and abandon causes at breakneck pace"


Im addressing what you said EXACTLY, there's no strawman other than the one you're building here. Americans, specifically the progressive left, have supported an independent Palestine for fucking ever and youre saying its the "flavor of the week" :rofl:

jesus christ you are dense




you know how I know youre mad? resulting to cheap ad hominem attacks as usual because you have nothing else. sad and pathetic like the rest of your kind
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you literally said

Im addressing what you said EXACTLY, there's no strawman other than the one you're building here. Americans, specifically the progressive left, have supported an independent Palestine for fucking ever and youre saying its the "flavor of the week" :rofl:

jesus christ you are dense




you know how I know youre mad? resulting to cheap ad hominem attacks as usual because you have nothing else. sad and pathetic like the rest of your kind


Masses of liberals do do that (so do most conservatives). nothing about what i said implies or claims support for this defunding of israel will go to literal zero. the facts that you even somehow got that is why expensive ad homs is all you're worth. its all you've been worth for months, but you did quote me so i gave you the time of day you're worth, 1 solid minute in the midst of boredom while im at work. you wouldnt be worth loading d2jsp on my phone if i was in a 2 hour que at the DMV.

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Quote (thesnipa @ Dec 14 2023 01:10pm)
Masses of liberals do do that (so do most conservatives). nothing about what i said implies or claims support for this defunding of israel will go to literal zero. the facts that you even somehow got that is why expensive ad homs is all you're worth. its all you've been worth for months, but you did quote me so i gave you the time of day you're worth, 1 solid minute in the midst of boredom while im at work. you wouldnt be worth loading d2jsp on my phone if i was in a 2 hour que at the DMV.


if you dont think the protests and social upheaval happening are going to have a political impact on our relations with Israel then I dont know what to tell you bud. you seem to be stuck in the hog echo chamber
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