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Sep 14 2016 03:53pm
Quote (EndlessSky @ Sep 14 2016 02:39pm)
He doubts your chosen statistical methods.

ABC and Pew had the most accurate ones last election and im guessing they show ~3-4 Clinton all around right now which would put many of the big ones at a bias.

I wouldnt even know where to look for accurate state polls.


I don't have chosen statistical methods seeing as I don't work for a polling firm. Unless he's talking about doubting the industry standards that I suggest every firm adheres to (and if that's what he's talking about then he's simply a clueless moron, plain and simple). And, if that is what he's talking about, that isn't at all clear from the babbling in those posts.

The ABC/WaPo joint is among the gold standard in public polling (along with the NBC/WSJ joint). Pew is great for issue polling but they memorably had a Romney +4 survey early in October that put their entire work that cycle in a negative light. Regardless, the firms aren't judged by their national numbers because we don't have a national primary. The swing-state polling is where their reputations are decided and where their numbers really matter.

ABC/WaPo, NBC/WSJ, CBS/NYT (NOT the CBS-sponsored YouGov polls), PPP, and Pew are where it's at for state polls, too. SurveyUSA and the CNN/ORC polls have been a step below that top-tier (because they bounce around a lot, showing way more movement than an actual election has) but they were pretty accurate in 2012. This is Monmouth's first cycle branching out to important states but they've done pretty well, all things considered.
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Sep 14 2016 09:53pm
all knowing, we should of listened

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Sep 14 2016 10:19pm
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all knowing, we should of listened
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yg6ArYuspVI


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Sep 15 2016 09:36am
Ivanka now dodging Cosmopolitan magazine, a platform that could put her message in the hands of millions of impressionable women... what a fail...

https://www.yahoo.com/news/ivanka-trump-cosmopolitan-interview-135516762.html

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“In 2004, Donald Trump said that pregnancy is an inconvenient thing for a business,” Gupta said. “It’s surprising to see this policy from him today. Can you talk a little about those comments, and perhaps what has changed?”

“So I think that you have a lot of negativity in these questions,” Ivanka replied. “So I don’t know how useful it is to spend too much time with you on this, if you’re going to make a comment like that.”


Lots of negativity in those quotes her dad made when he wasn't looking for votes. Tough to deal with daddy not treating every other girl on the planet like his little princess. Doesn't help she walked into a landmine by falsely claiming some of her Dad's businesses already provide universal maternity leave.
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Sep 15 2016 09:50am
Quote (thesnipa @ Sep 15 2016 11:36am)
Ivanka now dodging Cosmopolitan magazine, a platform that could put her message in the hands of millions of impressionable women... what a fail...

https://www.yahoo.com/news/ivanka-trump-cosmopolitan-interview-135516762.html



Lots of negativity in those quotes her dad made when he wasn't looking for votes. Tough to deal with daddy not treating every other girl on the planet like his little princess. Doesn't help she walked into a landmine by falsely claiming some of her Dad's businesses already provide universal maternity leave.


I expect this to become the norm as we get more intense coverage. The campaign has peaked, I can't wait for the debates
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Sep 15 2016 10:05am
Quote (hydrogod @ Sep 15 2016 09:50am)
I expect this to become the norm as we get more intense coverage. The campaign has peaked, I can't wait for the debates


Walking out of interviews is such a bad optic, even more so when you're dodging a fucking quote. Im sure the base will eat up the "media picking on our candidate" bullshit, but the moderate base wont, whatever is left of it.

P.S. did anyone spot Kelly Ann Conway pulling the staple gaffe of campaign management when confronted on Trump proving he's in an audit (hint he hasn't even proven he's being audited yet) when she said "are you calling him a liar". Rule #1 of politics is never to invite people to evaluate the honesty of your candidate, especially when he's the type of guy who claims he saw thousands of people in New Jersey celebrating 9-11.

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Sep 15 2016 11:06am
new daily LA times poll
trump 47.2
clinton 41.3
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Sep 15 2016 12:45pm
Trump is now up 8 points in Iowa in the latest Monmouth poll:

http://www.monmouth.edu/polling-institute/reports/MonmouthPoll_IA_091516/

He's also currently leading in Florida, Ohio, and North Carolina. He also has established leads in Georgia and Arizona, two states he was polling embarrassingly low in a month ago.

Clinton is up in Virginia, Pennsylvania, New Hampshire, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Nevada, and Michigan.
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Sep 15 2016 01:06pm
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Trump is now up 8 points in Iowa in the latest Monmouth poll:

http://www.monmouth.edu/polling-institute/reports/MonmouthPoll_IA_091516/

He's also currently leading in Florida, Ohio, and North Carolina. He also has established leads in Georgia and Arizona, two states he was polling embarrassingly low in a month ago.

Clinton is up in Virginia, Pennsylvania, New Hampshire, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Nevada, and Michigan.


The GOP is trying to push some story involving leaked emails from WI democrats under Walker to show democrats have no respect for the law. I believe it was a crass statement along the lines of "wouldn't it be nice if we didn't have to follow the law and Walker." But its really just a hail mary as they haven't helped Johnson at all and are seemingly giving up WI's senate seat to Feingold. Which is nothing but a 6 year failure come home to rest, they pushed the angle that Johnson (a budget specialist) was only taking Feingold's senate seat to serve a single term because he was going to go in any make things happen on the national budget. Now, 6 years later, he's gotten nothing done as senate hasn't gotten much done, and he likes his cushy seat. So his former campaign slogan is now making him look like a filthy hypocrite. I'll still vote for him because i hate Feingold.
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