We are not talking about what I personally do or don't do about suffering. We are talking about whether your god is good, and based on the fact he allows suffering, he probably isn't.

interesting you would chose those words

(the world groans under the weight of sin)

Romans 8:22
“For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now.”
King James Version (KJV)

its a hard thing to come to terms with. the misery of the place and the misery some people go through. an interesting note is the places further against/away from/without God seem to do the worst. I am sure you have seen my post "godless goodness"

Atheist Governments of the 20th Century: The Death Toll of Godless Goodness
https://www.patheos.com/blogs/publiccatholic/2013/03/atheist-governments-of-the-20th-century-the-death-toll-of-godless-goodness/

Mao Ze-Dong (China, 1958-61 and 1966-69, Tibet 1949-50) 49-78,000,00 people murdered

Jozef Stalin (USSR 1932-39 only) 15,000,000 people murdered

Pol Pot (Cambodia, 1975-79) 1,700,000 people murdered

Kim II Sung (North Korea 1948-94) 1.6 million people murdered

Tito (Yugoslavia 1945-1987) 570,000 people murdered

Suharto (Communists 1967-66) 500,000 people murdered

Ante Pavelic (Croatia 1941-45) 359,000 people murdered

Ho Chi Min (Vietnam 1953-56) 200,000 people murdered

Vladimir Ilich Lenin (USSR, 1917-20) 30,000 people murdered

Adolf Hitler (Germany 1939-1945) 12,000,000 people murdered

We have defined that our purpose is to glorify God. God recieves glory through every thing that happens whether you deem it good or not doesn't matter.

Almost every post I've seen of yours so far has been about how in your mind suffering can't exist within the world view of the Christian God while providing nothing besides your opinion about this.

This isn't a philosophical brainstorming of what a god should be here. This thread is about the God of the bible.

I never said suffering can't exist. I said that the fact suffering exists is proof that your god is a bad god.

I swear you are not reading what I'm typing.

Can you post proof of this claim

Omg, it sounds like you are the one who's not reading.

I will repeat: suffering, which is bad, exists. And your god allows it. Therefore, your god is probably a bad god.

I don't know how simpler I can make it be.

Yeah I've responded to this 5 or so times.

Stick to your atheism subreddit and liking atheist memes on Facebook

Your "responses" have all been nonsensical ramblings. You also failed to explain how a supposedly good god can allow suffering to exist.



Do these places induce your tears.

Do you not understand that we exist to glorify God? I've told you literally 3 times, suffering glorifies God.

Genesis 50 19-20

19But Joseph replied, “Do not be afraid. Am I in the place of God? 20As for you, what you intended against me for evil, God intended for good, in order to accomplish a day like this— to preserve the lives of many people.

We are talking the biblical God here, not your opinion on what a god should be. So far your entire argument is emotion based with nothing showing your even talking about the God of the bible.

And I keep telling you if your god feels glorified by suffering, then he is a psychopath.



I don't need to read the bible to know that you are contradicting yourself. You cannot have both "god allows suffering" and "god is good". These two things exclude each other.