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Jul 24 2024 07:42am
Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Jul 24 2024 03:37pm)


Did you see those trains loaded with armor and supplies taken out by Iskanders?

And the Iskander strikes in Odessa where a bunch of British SAS and French special forces got hit?

Just two examples of what targets Iskander missiles are taking out well behind the front lines.

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Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Jul 24 2024 09:11am)
Speaking of sources



https://i.imgur.com/HbxOPoT.gif





Why HIMARs still doing work?


During the last 24-hour period, the Russian Armed Forces delivered a massive strike by precision weapons against US-made HIMARS multiple rocket launchers prepared for delivering strikes on the territory of Crimea, and also against a Ukrainian military command’s meeting place. The goals of the strike were achieved. The strike destroyed four US-made HIMARS rocket launchers and up to 35 foreign specialists servicing these systems," the ministry said in a statement.
https://tass.com/politics/1814677

I watch all the russian stuff getting blown up aswell but I also watch Ukrainian stuff getting blown up. Balance is key here because you start to lose focus of the bigger picture. I'm a big fan boy of western tech but we gave Ukrainians hand-me-downs and the Russians are starting to pick them off with ease.
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During the last 24-hour period, the Russian Armed Forces delivered a massive strike by precision weapons against US-made HIMARS multiple rocket launchers prepared for delivering strikes on the territory of Crimea, and also against a Ukrainian military command’s meeting place. The goals of the strike were achieved. The strike destroyed four US-made HIMARS rocket launchers and up to 35 foreign specialists servicing these systems," the ministry said in a statement.
https://tass.com/politics/1814677

I watch all the russian stuff getting blown up aswell but I also watch Ukrainian stuff getting blown up. Balance is key here because you start to lose focus of the bigger picture. I'm a big fan boy of western tech but we gave Ukrainians hand-me-downs and the Russians are starting to pick them off with ease.


A HIMAR launcher costs about 3mil. The ammunition probably cost more so that's a decent hit.
How many can you verify or quote a source verifying how many have been destroyed?
To my knowledge Ukraine have lost 6. Even if its double that.
It's a drop in the ocean. And hardly supports your claim.
Correct in that Ukraine has nothing close to the level of tech, the volume or level of combined arms support that NATO itself has.

I chuckle when ofthevoid says Russia is somehow a match because Ukraine is taking losses.
And that somehow scales up to a NATO vs Russia confrontation.
It's chalk and cheese.
Not to mention the equipment that has been provided to Ukraine has helped them prevent Russia completing anything close to their miltary objectives.

This was a reality check for the Russian military. NATO equipment has been tested against a (supposedly) near peer adversary and its a boon for miltary strategists and arms manufacturers

This post was edited by Prox1m1ty on Jul 24 2024 08:53am
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Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Jul 24 2024 04:53pm)
NATO equipment has been tested against a (supposedly) near peer adversary and its a boon for miltary strategists and arms manufacturers


The equipment was tested and guess what, the unbeatable NATO tanks ended up in Moscow on display instead of fighting their way to Crimea where they were supposed to go.

Another example is excalibur round accuracy that dropped to a low of only 6% hitting their intended target. That's a 100K shell turned into a dumb shell comrade (already linked you the article).

But hey NATO equipment was tested. Winning of course :thumbsup:
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Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Jul 24 2024 10:53am)
A HIMAR launcher costs about 3mil. The ammunition probably cost more so that's a decent hit.
How many can you verify or quote a source verifying how many have been destroyed?
To my knowledge Ukraine have lost 6. Even if its double that.
It's a drop in the ocean. And hardly supports your claim.
Correct in that Ukraine has nothing close to the level of tech, the volume or level of combined arms support that NATO itself has.

I chuckle when ofthevoid says Russia is somehow a match because Ukraine is taking losses.
And that somehow scales up to a NATO vs Russia confrontation.
It's chalk and cheese.
Not to mention the equipment that has been provided to Ukraine has helped them prevent Russia completing anything close to their miltary objectives.

This was a reality check for the Russian military. NATO equipment has been tested against a (supposedly) near peer adversary and its a boon for miltary strategists and arms manufacturers


Do me a favor and quote where i said this. What i actually said:

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Yes a single country is overmatched by a collective alliance spanning 2 continents and having a population and GDP that's multiples larger. What's your point? Because of this it's precisely why they wouldn't engage only by 'conventional' sandbox means. That's why I'm talking about escalations that really the modern world hasn't seen such as taking satellite networks down.


Your English comprehension is lacking, which is concerning considering it's your first language and you're an adult, or you're lying mate, but be better please.

And lol at asking for verification. If only you applied this standard when quoting 500k dead Russians (i know this is outdated, you can let me know if it's 1 million at this point) or dozens of their planes getting shot down on a weekly basis.
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Jul 24 2024 11:37am
Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Jul 24 2024 10:53am)
A HIMAR launcher costs about 3mil. The ammunition probably cost more so that's a decent hit.
How many can you verify or quote a source verifying how many have been destroyed?
To my knowledge Ukraine have lost 6. Even if its double that.
It's a drop in the ocean. And hardly supports your claim.
Correct in that Ukraine has nothing close to the level of tech, the volume or level of combined arms support that NATO itself has.

I chuckle when ofthevoid says Russia is somehow a match because Ukraine is taking losses.
And that somehow scales up to a NATO vs Russia confrontation.
It's chalk and cheese.
Not to mention the equipment that has been provided to Ukraine has helped them prevent Russia completing anything close to their miltary objectives.

This was a reality check for the Russian military. NATO equipment has been tested against a (supposedly) near peer adversary and its a boon for miltary strategists and arms manufacturers


Losing 4 out of ~60 HIMAR / HIMAR-equivalents is not good. They aren't easily replaced. It's not about money, the production capacity is very limited (<100 per year) and they're in high demand.

It's the same story on artillery shell production. The United States has plans to increase production to 100k monthly, whereas Russia is presently producing more than double that. It will take a dramatic increase in the Western military industrial base, one that hasn't been forthcoming in 2 years, to continue to match Russian material advantages. Obviously American arms are superior, but American industrial might has withered away, and there are a lot of bills to pay for that have nothing to do with Ukraine.
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Jul 24 2024 11:58am
2nd strongest military in Ukraine ain't even from Ukraine
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Losing 4 out of ~60 HIMAR / HIMAR-equivalents is not good. They aren't easily replaced. It's not about money, the production capacity is very limited (<100 per year) and they're in high demand.

It's the same story on artillery shell production. The United States has plans to increase production to 100k monthly, whereas Russia is presently producing more than double that. It will take a dramatic increase in the Western military industrial base, one that hasn't been forthcoming in 2 years, to continue to match Russian material advantages. Obviously American arms are superior, but American industrial might has withered away, and there are a lot of bills to pay for that have nothing to do with Ukraine.


4/60 in nearly 3 years. Outstanding, nothing less than.
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Jul 24 2024 11:34pm
I posted this one already ?



Quote (ofthevoid @ Jul 24 2024 06:46pm)
Do me a favor and quote where i said this. What i actually said:

Your English comprehension is lacking, which is concerning considering it's your first language and you're an adult, or you're lying mate, but be better please.

And lol at asking for verification. If only you applied this standard when quoting 500k dead Russians (i know this is outdated, you can let me know if it's 1 million at this point) or dozens of their planes getting shot down on a weekly basis.


I remember during Covid crisis when you clearly asked to stop lockdown, completely ignoring the hundreds of thousands eldery that could have been killed.

Quote (zorzin @ Jul 24 2024 12:46am)
This is all incorrect.

This is a "force multiplier":

https://i.postimg.cc/W3LchgKQ/1721335390482148.jpg


Hopefully these top notch vehicles are here to stop ukrainian fleet to oppress russian one.

only 250 years left



This post was edited by Meanwhile on Jul 24 2024 11:40pm
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