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Quote (Handcuffs @ Nov 7 2018 04:30am)
Alt-righters aren't even remotely to the left. lol


that is not what i said at all

IF you consider yourself as Leftie or Centrist, it will not matter to radical far-leftists and they will label you ALT-RIGHT for daring to disagree with them

here is a good example that should sober you up to the modern day reality

Evergreen Madness: Why Bret Weinstein Left



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Quote (Santara @ Nov 6 2018 06:33pm)
Is anyone else getting "bad gateway" messages when attempting to post or load pages here tonight?


Not I.
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Quote (HeLiCaL @ Nov 6 2018 06:34pm)
that is not what i said at all

IF you consider yourself as Leftie or Centrist, it will not matter to radical far-leftists and they will label you ALT-RIGHT for daring to disagree with them

here is a good example that should sober you up to the modern day reality

Evergreen Madness: Why Bret Weinstein Left

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pf5fAiXYr08


Ah, I misunderstood your post. Although, even with this new understanding, I can still say I don't agree with your post.
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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Nov 6 2018 09:21pm)
If the democrats fail to take the house, their weak and incoherent messaging will be to blame. They had no unifying message, and ultimately, Trump wasnt really more unpopular than Obama going into their respective first midterms.

Hence, betting on some lukewarm, all-over the place policy messaging to be carried to success by Trump hatred and throwing unprecedented amounts of money at these races was just a weak strategy. They essentially repated their mistake from Clinton's 2016 campaign: assuming that Trumps weaknesses would doom him, instead of working on the own strength.


If Democrats fail to take the House, I think it says more about Trump voters than anything. 435 Democrats are running, there's no coherent message for everyone, but many candidates in close races focused on kitchen table issues like healthcare.

It will show Trump voters, and Republicans in general, aren't turned off by his daily lies, or occasional significant missteps(like Putin summit).

They are encouraged by the economy and his SC picks.

This post was edited by IceMage on Nov 6 2018 08:38pm
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Nov 6 2018 08:37pm
California has 0% counted and they have 53 elections for the house.


/e

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/elections/live_results/2018/house/

This post was edited by Ghot on Nov 6 2018 08:38pm
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California has 0% counted and they have 53 elections for the house.


*pours a tall glass of whiskey*
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But it LOOKS like a RED wave for the House. :)

So far anyhow.





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If Democrats fail to take the House, I think it says more about Trump voters than anything. 435 Democrats are running, there's no coherent message for everyone, but many candidates in close races focused on kitchen table issues like healthcare.

It will show Trump voters, and Republicans in general, aren't turned off by his daily lies, or occasional significant missteps(like Putin summit).

They are encouraged by the economy and his SC picks.


well, it depends on the turnout: is democratic turnout lower than they anticipated while republican turnout is average, or is it as high as they thought, but republican turnout up as well?


but tahts all too early to call, we dont know how the fight for the house will end until much later into the night.
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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Nov 6 2018 10:45pm)
well, it depends on the turnout: is democratic turnout lower than they anticipated while republican turnout is average, or is it as high as they thought, but republican turnout up as well?


but tahts all too early to call, we dont know how the fight for the house will end until much later into the night.




Dude, the 3 big DEM states are even being counted yet. Pretty much the whole west coast will vote DEM.

/e DEMS just picked up another HOUSE seat in Florida.

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