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Oct 22 2024 05:31pm
4 hours ago, The Atlantic tried its hand at stabbing Trump before the election
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2024/10/trump-military-generals-hitler/680327/
They printed an article claiming Trump had offered to pay for the funeral costs of a fallen US army private Vanessa Guillen, but when he received the bill they claim he said;
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Trump became angry. “It doesn’t cost 60,000 bucks to bury a fucking Mexican!” He turned to his chief of staff, Mark Meadows, and issued an order: “Don’t pay it!” Later that day, he was still agitated. “Can you believe it?” he said, according to a witness. “Fucking people, trying to rip me off.”



Meanwhile, they received statements from both Mayra Guillen, the sister of the soldier who said Trump was respectful and supportive at all times, and from Trump's campaign spokesman who said people who were actually in the room that day denied the Atlantic's account and said Trump declared he wanted her death labeled as 'in the line of duty' so she'd have full military honors and benefits. The Atlantic responded to the sister's statement by insinuating it was written by Trump's campaign and fabricated, saying "Pfeiffer told me that he did not write that statement, and emailed me a series of denials."

Now take a step back. The Atlantic just ran this story, 4 hours ago, openly challenging the sister's statement as a fabrication by the Trump campaign

What's the first thing that happened? Her family spoke out. Immediately. Saying The Atlantic is full of shit, that Trump was gracious to them and they just voted for him
Its 2024, she has a twitter account, she can respond in real time:
https://x.com/mguilen_/status/1848824382572900374
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Wow.
I don’t appreciate how you are exploiting my sister’s death for politics- hurtful & disrespectful to the important changes she made for service members. President Donald Trump did nothing but show respect to my family & Vanessa. In fact, I voted for President Trump today.



You can't just public articles lying about people like this and expect to get away with it. What's the fucking game plan from The Atlantic here? They clearly never reached out to the family for comment, they didn't vet their story whatsoever. They just figured they'd pick up a big ball of shit and throw it at Trump to smear him even without even a pretense of journalistic ethics or vetting their sources.

This post was edited by Goomshill on Oct 22 2024 05:33pm
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Oct 22 2024 05:58pm
Quote (Goomshill @ Oct 22 2024 04:31pm)
4 hours ago, The Atlantic tried its hand at stabbing Trump before the election
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2024/10/trump-military-generals-hitler/680327/
They printed an article claiming Trump had offered to pay for the funeral costs of a fallen US army private Vanessa Guillen, but when he received the bill they claim he said;



Meanwhile, they received statements from both Mayra Guillen, the sister of the soldier who said Trump was respectful and supportive at all times, and from Trump's campaign spokesman who said people who were actually in the room that day denied the Atlantic's account and said Trump declared he wanted her death labeled as 'in the line of duty' so she'd have full military honors and benefits. The Atlantic responded to the sister's statement by insinuating it was written by Trump's campaign and fabricated, saying "Pfeiffer told me that he did not write that statement, and emailed me a series of denials."

Now take a step back. The Atlantic just ran this story, 4 hours ago, openly challenging the sister's statement as a fabrication by the Trump campaign

What's the first thing that happened? Her family spoke out. Immediately. Saying The Atlantic is full of shit, that Trump was gracious to them and they just voted for him
Its 2024, she has a twitter account, she can respond in real time:
https://x.com/mguilen_/status/1848824382572900374



You can't just public articles lying about people like this and expect to get away with it. What's the fucking game plan from The Atlantic here? They clearly never reached out to the family for comment, they didn't vet their story whatsoever. They just figured they'd pick up a big ball of shit and throw it at Trump to smear him even without even a pretense of journalistic ethics or vetting their sources.


They've gotten away with it for decades, why would they stop now?

They'll smear people who criticize them as Russian agents and Trump conspiracy theorists and their loyal followers will continue to believe them uncritically
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Oct 22 2024 08:04pm
Kamala Harris doing a multiple-state tour with previous Republican-leader Liz Cheney. I guess the campaign thinks center-right swing-voters are up for grabs.

To preempt the cultists here, Liz Cheney got voted out because she took exception to Trump trying to overturn American democracy, something that you cowards don't care about at all. She voted for Trump twice, and gave up her power because she was principled enough to oppose a tyrant. Stay mad though.
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Oct 22 2024 09:31pm
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Kamala Harris doing a multiple-state tour with previous Republican-leader Liz Cheney. I guess the campaign thinks center-right swing-voters are up for grabs.

To preempt the cultists here, Liz Cheney got voted out because she took exception to Trump trying to overturn American democracy, something that you cowards don't care about at all. She voted for Trump twice, and gave up her power because she was principled enough to oppose a tyrant. Stay mad though.

And yet through your fg bet u putting orange dude at 90% chance to win but harris at 10%

You ok there?
Cause like u saying the other side are cultists but you're the one with cultish behavior x)
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Oct 23 2024 07:50am
nvm
idc

This post was edited by Loipisdead on Oct 23 2024 07:52am
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Oct 23 2024 08:29am
Quote (moonbeam420 @ Oct 22 2024 11:31pm)
And yet through your fg bet u putting orange dude at 90% chance to win but harris at 10%

You ok there?
Cause like u saying the other side are cultists but you're the one with cultish behavior x)


I did a 1:1 bet on Harris vs Trump a couple months ago. I think Trump is the favorite right now but not by much.
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Oct 23 2024 08:44am
Quote (IceMage @ Oct 23 2024 07:29am)
I did a 1:1 bet on Harris vs Trump a couple months ago. I think Trump is the favorite right now but not by much.


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Oct 23 2024 09:05am
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Why are nutty Trump supporters still obsessing over COVID?
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Oct 23 2024 09:11am
Quote (IceMage @ Oct 23 2024 11:05am)
Why are nutty Trump supporters still obsessing over COVID?


I mean they are right to do so. Tons of people lost their businesses/jobs for a hoax. ''2 weeks to flatten the curve''. More like 2 years to destroy your communities and workforce to replace them by migrants and TFW. Some of us live in the real world Icemage and grew up prior to the internet boom. We weren't raised online.
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Oct 23 2024 09:13am
Quote (iLoveMyUsername @ Oct 23 2024 11:11am)
I mean they are right to do so. Tons of people lost their businesses/jobs for a hoax. ''2 weeks to flatten the curve''. More like 2 years to destroy your communities and workforce to replace them by migrants and TFW. Some of us live in the real world Icemage and grew up prior to the internet boom. We weren't raised online.


How is a disease that a million Americans died from a hoax? I guess the same way climate change is a hoax? An inconvenient truth that right-wingers have a hard time accepting?
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