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Nov 2 2020 09:39pm
Quote (cambovenzi @ Nov 2 2020 10:36pm)
A dodge as expected.


A dodge would be someone posting data that refutes a firmly held belief by someone and them going "dodge as expected" rather than going "thanks I'll look into those, what about other topics".

I'm currently going through some more pages to find a topic.
I started from 50 btw, not from 1. I'm on page 22 going towards 1.
So far its just more actual or borderline racist apologia, leftists are evil and the state is bad, without actually refutations of anything using data. Its just a lot of rhetoric.

This post was edited by Mangix on Nov 2 2020 09:49pm
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Nov 2 2020 09:51pm
Quote (Mangix @ Nov 2 2020 10:33pm)
The anti-intellectual talking points are your defense you usually use to disregard race as an issue in regards to policing. You don't actually back up any of it with data just vaguely allude to data on occasion. Quoted my post from a diff thread on the topic.


crime = jail

3 percent of the population (young black males) are responsible for 58 percent of the murders. the fact that more arent in jail is a problem.
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Nov 2 2020 09:52pm
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crime = jail

3 percent of the population (young black males) are responsible for 58 percent of the murders.


Unless you want to address that problem with actual cures, get over it because its going to be around for a lot longer. Saying 13/50 or whatever factually true stat until your lungs collapse doesn't actually solve problems.
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Nov 2 2020 09:54pm
Quote (Mangix @ Nov 2 2020 10:52pm)
Unless you want to address that problem with actual cures, get over it because its going to be around for a lot longer. Saying 13/50 or whatever factually true stat until your lungs collapse doesn't actually solve problems.


The solution is abolishing welfare, divorce, and abortion.

Democrats are unwilling to do this, so I will sit and watch the Democratic party die falling prey to the metaphorical monster that they created (disenfranchised blacks)
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Nov 2 2020 09:56pm
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The solution is abolishing welfare, divorce, and abortion.

Democrats are unwilling to do this, so I will sit and watch the Democratic party die falling prey to the metaphorical monster that they created (disenfranchised blacks)


I said actual cures, like ones that we have tested and know they work.
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Nov 2 2020 09:58pm
Quote (Mangix @ Nov 2 2020 10:39pm)
A dodge would be someone posting data that refutes a firmly held belief by someone and them going "dodge as expected" rather than going "thanks I'll look into those, what about other topics"


You started with falsely calling me alt right without substantiation.

You falsely claimed I agree with them on all major issues.

You falsely equated criticizing and disagreeing with leftists as being alt-right and/or doing the bidding of the alt-right.

You falsely claimed everything I talk about is about race when its not.

When asked to identify all major issues and my positions, you only managed to come up with policing issues related to race.
You have failed to identify my actual arguments on that topic.

You asked if I wanted you to repost studies.
I said no and made several points.

You copy/pasted the studies anyways(while failing to demonstrate how they disprove or address anything I have ever said) and avoided all of my points.
A poor attempt to steer the conversation into the weeds and tedium of one issue that you felt more comfortable with, because you could just copy paste some studies you like and pretend science and data is on your side.

Like I said, a dodge.

You have completely failed to substantiate the original accusations, while many of your claims were shown to be completely laughable fallacies and utter nonsense.
Critical thinking, reason and logic were more than sufficient. 'data' and activist studies are not required to make a valid argument. You would do well to understand that.
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Nov 2 2020 09:59pm
Quote (Mangix @ Nov 2 2020 10:56pm)
I said actual cures, like ones that we have tested and know they work.


*waiting until your party dies*
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Nov 2 2020 10:14pm
Quote (EndlessSky @ Nov 2 2020 10:59pm)
*waiting until your party dies*


The dems? Me too.

Quote (cambovenzi @ Nov 2 2020 10:58pm)
You started with falsely calling me alt right without substantiation.

You falsely claimed I agree with them on all major issues.

You falsely equated criticizing and disagreeing with leftists as being alt-right and/or doing the bidding of the alt-right.

You falsely claimed everything I talk about is about race when its not.

When asked to identify all major issues and my positions, you only managed to come up with policing issues related to race.
You have failed to identify my actual arguments on that topic.

You asked if I wanted you to repost studies.
I said no and made several points.

You copy/pasted the studies anyways(while failing to demonstrate how they disprove or address anything I have ever said) and avoided all of my points.
A poor attempt to steer the conversation into the weeds and tedium of one issue that you felt more comfortable with, because you could just copy paste some studies you like and pretend science and data is on your side.

Like I said, a dodge.

You have completely failed to substantiate the original accusations, while many of your claims were shown to be completely laughable fallacies and utter nonsense.
Critical thinking, reason and logic were more than sufficient. 'data' and activist studies are not required to make a valid argument. You would do well to understand that.


I'll agree I failed to equate you to the alt right, which is why I shifted to you do their bidding. It is a more accurate statement after assessment.
I didn't say you only talk about race, its just incredibly hard to find a topic in the pages 30-50 section.
Regardless of whether or not you agree this is factually true.
The few topics I've seen outside of that and more towards recent posts were just generalized hatred of the left, which is a pointless discussion to bother going down.
I pinned onto police because most topics as of late regarding race have to do with them, which is where your posts are...
I think the only thing outside of police I found was in regards to the confederate flag and the civil war. I really don't feel like going down the "states rights" logic hole.
You carry their weight for no reason if you aren't actually racist. I just don't really understand doing that unless you fell for their propaganda or were just born into a heavy right wing family and racism is just normalized to you.

On the topic of police do you actually just deny all data involving the policing of African Americans that you think is leftist?

I went back and looked and I didn't actually say you were alt right in the initial claim, i said you fell into the rabbit hole.
This might still be a incorrect statement though.

This post was edited by Mangix on Nov 2 2020 10:24pm
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Nov 2 2020 10:47pm


Some folk just can't read topic titles. :/



Trump/Pence 2020.







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Quote (Ghot @ Nov 2 2020 11:47pm)
Some folk just can't read topic titles. :/



Trump/Pence 2020.



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Guy killed the Obama recovery with a pandemic. Ghot votes for disease and poverty.
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