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Dec 14 2023 07:52am
Quote (zorzin @ Dec 14 2023 01:50pm)
Here's a debate between my boy the finklemaster and Alan Dershowitz, it's a pretty decent one with good points brought up by both sides. Finks' point about israels own language (indiscriminate) from "the get-go" made me think about your post.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uHqs15gOv4k&t=1384s&pp=ygUZZmlua2Vsc3RlaW4gdnMgZGVyc2hvd2l0eg%3D%3D


Piers Morgan has produced quite a lot of content on this topic of late, and his viewship is exploding. ill watch this. note that Piers has created the venue, he seems happy for both sides just to trash it out. 8 minutes in and ye. this is going to be a humdinger.

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i was hoping for :

i condemn the expression from the river to the see when anyone says it
i condemn collective punishment and indiscriminate bombings

Also if the president of the United States says is indiscriminate bombing, a bit late compared to everyone else in the world, but he got there, who am I to argue.

being different can be good and bad. the IDF has little or no incidents involving rape of civilians, which sets it apart from most armies in the world. the IDF has repeatedly bombed UN buildings and killed UN staff, which is also quite uncommon. Dropping the amount of ordinance, which it has to date, on Gaza, is also uncommon.


define in simple terms "indiscriminate bombing". the reason it's a useless PR term is because its a subjectively applied label for emotional effect.

why does it bother me? well, because like many of the terms you and other spout ad nauseum it doesnt change anything. in fact it has the opposite effect and steels the Israel reserve. they're genocidal, they're indiscriminately bombing, they're ethnically cleansing, they're colonizers, operators of an apartheid state, oppressors, etc etc etc. You think these kind of negative labels will stop them? long rants about how they're bad people? that's effective? what a laughable idea.

they need to be compassionately explained why something else that's more humanitarian is better for them. that's how the world works. you dont make people change by demonizing them. compassion towards israel is not for israel, its for gaza. anything else is actively killing more people in gaza. you and everyone else who just repeats twitter buzz words is actually putting a fire out with gas. you've labelled them the worst monster there is on earth, so they'll continue to act like it. what is the worst that can happen? you keep calling them vague bad names?
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define in simple terms "indiscriminate bombing". the reason it's a useless PR term is because its a subjectively applied label for emotional effect.

why does it bother me? well, because like many of the terms you and other spout ad nauseum it doesnt change anything. in fact it has the opposite effect and steels the Israel reserve. they're genocidal, they're indiscriminately bombing, they're ethnically cleansing, they're colonizers, operators of an apartheid state, oppressors, etc etc etc. You think these kind of negative labels will stop them? long rants about how they're bad people? that's effective? what a laughable idea.

they need to be compassionately explained why something else that's more humanitarian is better for them. that's how the world works. you dont make people change by demonizing them. compassion towards israel is not for israel, its for gaza. anything else is actively killing more people in gaza. you and everyone else who just repeats twitter buzz words is actually putting a fire out with gas. you've labelled them the worst monster there is on earth, so they'll continue to act like it. what is the worst that can happen? you keep calling them vague bad names?


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Dec 14 2023 09:12am
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Israel is not under naval blockade we simply pay 5000$ for the longer route and once we will be available to huti’s will pay for their stupidity

These are only things that come from Asia

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This is exactly it… every single time
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define in simple terms "indiscriminate bombing".


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Israel is not under naval blockade


CONFIRMED: Yemeni Naval sources told Al-Jazeera:
AnsarAllah ordered a cargo ship, which was sailing in the Red Sea towards israeli ports, to change its course. The ship is on its way to a port off the coast of Yemen.
https://nitter.net/AryJeay/status/1735300644800499974#m

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we're slowly edging towards "bullets are war crimes"
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