Quote (ferdia @ Dec 14 2023 11:08am)
no he was not clear, all of the israeli rhetoric and official statements and indiscriminate bombing (and what was said by users in this thread) has shown the world that there is little or no regard for civilians killed, and users have repeatedly said there is no difference between the words Palestinian and Hamas, look they are even combining the two words together now. i.e. no distinction, they are one and the same and they are being treated one and the same (less then dogs), therefore carry on. Israel shall be free from the river to the sea. women and children, innocents, dont have a right to exist they are not a people, they dont have a country and they are not human. thats all i am hearing right now, even when i challenge it i dont get any condemnation just the same deflections over and over and over.
If one side is called barbaric and inhuman when they chant "from the river to the sea" and the other side can do whatever they want (bombing dead 18000+ people). if one side wants to wipe the other side out while the other side IS ACTUALLY WIPING THE OTHER SIDE OUT, how can you not see the double standards ?! Was there not a law that said thou shalt not kill?
How can people not just say:
i condemn the expression from the river to the see when anyone says it
i condemn collective punishment and indiscriminate bombings
it should not be hard to say these things, they are not losing much, they can still say "but we are at war, they killed our people, what else can we do". but no, you wont condemn these acts and hate speech.
mental.
"Israel bombs Gaza as disease stalks displaced residents"
""endless, deepening tragedy… hell on earth".
I agree with you, and I condemn collective punishment.
There is always a but. In this case, after I saw hundreds of videos showing Hamas snipers shooting from residential complexes etc I do understand the IDF calling for an air strike on that apartment.
Your views are too much black and white while all this war is in the grey area, in my opinion.
I’m convinced that the IDF is bombing locations where the enemy is at and not “indiscriminate booming of civilians”. It’s just happened to be that the entire strip has been prepared for years as a base of terror. Hatches and tunnels all over. Almost every house has some sort of infrastructure to support the “resistance”.
I read nothing but people mocking that, saying the IDF labels everything as “Hamas”. I trust completely the IDF and what the IDF is now doing. I’ve served in the IDF and I know its values.
Israel, like any other nation, has its extremists. You won’t hear from the common Israeli that Palestinians are “not humans”. You’ll hear a broad support to the war and the way the IDF is managing it.
With all do respect to the international community , we are the ones that actually live here and need to deal with it. It’s more than a debate to us.
This post was edited by WhiteSouned on Dec 14 2023 03:47am