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Dec 13 2023 04:18pm
Quote (gnarjay @ 14 Dec 2023 00:15)
when did you lose your humanity?




:huh:


If we treated them the way they treat us there was no them
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Quote (Many_Names @ Dec 13 2023 02:18pm)
If we treated them the way they treat us there was no them


if you were humiliated, forced off of your land, your houses bulldozed , your parents and grandparents bombed to pieces, you wouldnt fight back?
youre a liar and a hypocrite

if jews were being treated like palestinians are, can you imagine the outrage? you guys are crying about being called out for killing tens of thousands of innocent people

This post was edited by gnarjay on Dec 13 2023 04:21pm
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NEVER FORGET 10/7!!!

When SJW's around the world united in condemnation not of the act responsible for the cause of the war but for Israel's response to the terrorist attack itself :bonk:

When people who aren't from Israel or Gaza told them "how they would do things if they were in power" :wallbash:

When people in this thread say they care about the Palestinian people but probably haven't prayed for anyone but themselves ever :angel:

When people in this thread post something they just saw on social media as absolute proof even if it's being used as ongoing propaganda by either side in this conflict :rofl:

When people in this thread think everything Israel has done is a "war crime" but the "international community" only "condemns" the actions because they are not war crimes :bouncy:

War is brutal, tragic, disgusting, and reprehensible but people in this thread who couldn't "fight their way out of a paper bag" are going to act like "they know what it's like".....

I could keep going but..... :zzz:

This post was edited by SwamiVivekananda on Dec 13 2023 04:21pm
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Quote (ferdia @ Dec 13 2023 11:09pm)
Use by US forces in Iraq

In November 2004, during the Second Battle of Fallujah, Washington Post reporters embedded with Task Force 2-2, Regimental Combat Team 7 stated that they witnessed artillery guns firing white phosphorus projectiles, which "create a screen of fire that cannot be extinguished with water. Insurgents reported being attacked with a substance that melted their skin, a reaction consistent with white phosphorous burns."[12] The same article also reported, "The corpses of the mujaheddin which we received were burned, and some corpses were melted."[12] The March/April 2005 issue of an official Army publication called Field Artillery Magazine reported that "White phosphorus proved to be an effective and versatile munition and a potent psychological weapon against the insurgents in trench lines and spider holes. ... We fired 'shake and bake' missions at the insurgents using W.P. [white phosphorus] to flush them out and H.E. [high explosives] to take them out".[13][14]

The documentary Fallujah, The Hidden Massacre, produced by RAI TV and released 8 November 2005, showed video and photos that they claimed to be of Fallujah combatants and also civilians, including women and children, who had died of burns caused by white phosphorus during the Second Battle of Fallujah.[15]

On 15 November 2005, following denials to the press from the US ambassadors in London and Rome, the US Department of Defense confirmed that US forces had used white phosphorus as an incendiary weapon in Fallujah, in order to drive combatants out of dug-in positions.[15][16] On 22 November 2005, the Iraqi government stated it would investigate the use of white phosphorus in the battle of Fallujah.[17] On 30 November 2005, the BBC quoted US General Peter Pace saying "It [WP munitions] is not a chemical weapon. It is an incendiary. And it is well within the law of war to use those weapons as they're being used, for marking and for screening."[18] Professor Paul Rodgers from the University of Bradford department of peace and conflict studies said that white phosphorus would probably fall into the category of chemical weapons if it was used directly against people.[15]

from this there is a grey area related to white phosphorous. While some users say it is black and white, this to my mind further supports my claim that its a grey area. a grey area is where two or more people disagree on the validity of the statement.


What difference does it make in the case of fallujah and gaza? If you are bombing and destroying 70-90%+ of all buildings might as well use WP, i dont see why not (morally).

This post was edited by ownyaah on Dec 13 2023 04:26pm
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Dec 13 2023 04:27pm
Quote (gnarjay @ 14 Dec 2023 00:20)
if you were humiliated, forced off of your land, your houses bulldozed , your parents and grandparents bombed to pieces, you wouldnt fight back?
youre a liar and a hypocrite

if jews were being treated like palestinians are, can you imagine the outrage? you guys are crying about being called out for killing tens of thousands of innocent people


Well we were displaced, bomb to pieces and than we moved on, built ourselves from 0
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Quote (Many_Names @ Dec 14 2023 12:18am)
If we treated them the way they treat us there was no them


Isn´t the current goal to displace Arabs from Gaza? That is what it looks like to me, anyway.
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Dec 13 2023 04:31pm
Quote (ownyaah @ 14 Dec 2023 00:30)
Isn´t the current goal to displace Arabs from Gaza? That is what it looks like to me, anyway.


No, the goal is to destroy Hamas and release the hostages.
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Quote (Many_Names @ Dec 13 2023 11:31pm)
No, the goal is to destroy Hamas and release the hostages.


Yeah but thats not the whole true story.
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Dec 13 2023 04:36pm
Quote (Many_Names @ Dec 14 2023 12:31am)
No, the goal is to destroy Hamas and release the hostages.


In my eyes it looks like 2 objectives (in order of priority):

1. Displace or at the very least force it into semi/submission (15-20+years as no threat where they are focused on rebuilding).

2. Scare the shit out of Fatah and west bank.

Hostages are priority #532

This post was edited by ownyaah on Dec 13 2023 04:37pm
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Quote (Many_Names @ Dec 13 2023 10:31pm)
No, the goal is to destroy Hamas and release the hostages.


but did you or someone else not say that all palestinians = hamas sympatisers, and therefore they deserve it / or, too bad, they are collateral damage ? i dont want to scroll back so many pages to find the quotes but im pretty sure they were there. i thought even yesterday 2 people called everyone in gaza hamapalestinians ?
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