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May 1 2023 01:40pm
Quote (SP00K @ May 1 2023 12:23pm)
This argument implies that you are more moral than the one who defines what morals are. You are making an emotional argument.

God is glorified through everything. Suffering exists and in some way glorifies God. Take your feelings out of the equation.


There was no emotions on my part. You accuse me of being emotional as if you were making an argument. You aren't. I wasn't implying anything, either. Take my posts exactly as they are and stop making shit up.

The fact remains that your god's creation lives in misery, and you have no explanation for this.

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May 1 2023 01:46pm
Quote (JessiWan @ May 1 2023 02:40pm)
There was no emotions on my part. You keep accusing me of being emotional as if you were making an argument. You aren't. I wasn't implying anything, either. Take my posts exactly as they are and stop making shit up.

The fact remains that your god's creation lives in misery, and you have no explanation for this.


You brought up God can't be all good because suffering exists. ??????

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May 1 2023 01:50pm
Quote (SP00K @ May 1 2023 12:23pm)
This argument implies that you are more moral than the one who defines what morals are. You are making an emotional argument.

God is glorified through everything. Suffering exists and in some way glorifies God. Take your feelings out of the equation.


who gave him that right? I didn't.
You imply there is no belief other than yours.
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Quote (SP00K @ May 1 2023 12:46pm)
You brought up God can't be all good because suffering exists. ??????


Correct.

Suffering is bad. And god allows suffering. Therefore, god isn't good.
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May 1 2023 02:05pm
Quote (JessiWan @ May 1 2023 02:50pm)
Correct.

Suffering is bad. And god allows suffering. Therefore, god isn't good.


Once again, an emotional outburst from someone who doesn't understand what Christian belief is.

Are your arguments against the God of the bible or your idea of what a God should be?
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May 1 2023 02:08pm
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Why did you post two different threads where everyone is making fun of your learning disabilities?

The chevrons are locking.


i can use atheists to dispute atheist/antitheist monkeyman religion
Dr. Craig Venter Denies Common Descent in front of Richard Dawkins! (ventor, an actual real scientist working in a lab. sometimes these chuckle heads, showing off their knowledge forget to protect the monkey.



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:rofl: :rofl:


teehee

Quote (JessiWan @ May 1 2023 06:42am)
I never mentioned the new testament. Are you high? I merely said that the precursor of Christianity was the product of the Jewish mind.

Also, I'll admit I indeed didn't know who wrote the new testament. And its because I don't care to. I really do not care who wrote what portion of your holy book.


it was jews

human suffering? is it our fault or is it Gods? that we have free will? the collective choices we make? what have you done in this world? questions i had to face myself.


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doesnt falsify scripture in the slightest

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heh


teehee

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Once again, an emotional outburst from someone who doesn't understand what Christian belief is.


If you are just going to dismiss my posts as "emotional outburst", I can return the favor and call your faith "delusional ramblings", which is what it is.

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Are your arguments against the God of the bible or your idea of what a God should be?


Look, the matter is very simple, really. Is suffering bad? I am sure you will say yes. And does your god allow it? Again, it's yes. Therefore, your god is a bad god.
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May 1 2023 02:11pm
Quote (JessiWan @ May 1 2023 03:08pm)
If you are just going to dismiss my posts as "emotional outburst", I can return the favor and call your faith "delusional ramblings", which is what it is.



Look, the matter is very simple, really. Is suffering bad? I am sure you will say yes. And does your god allow it? Again, it's yes. Therefore, your god is a bad god.


Good dodge

Suffering glorifies God which is good.

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May 1 2023 02:14pm
Quote (SP00K @ May 1 2023 01:11pm)
Good dodge

Suffering glorifies God which is good.


1. Your god is a psychopath if he feels glorified in suffering.

2. You are also a psychopath if you feel that there is nothing wrong with the above.
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May 1 2023 02:18pm
Quote (JessiWan @ May 1 2023 03:14pm)
1. Your god is a psychopath if he feels glorified in suffering.

2. You are also a psychopath if you feel that there is nothing wrong with the above.


What's funny is You say that you can't believe in God because suffering exists and in your mind an all good God would not allow suffering. Meanwhile you see the suffering happening and actively aren't doing anything about it.
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