me too I noted a big change lately, killogre seems to had lot fun to write, but j0ltk0la doesn't find troll games funny anymore and it's like if the rage bubble is cracking from everywhere.

You're denying that socialization exists. It's a pretty fundamental aspect of human development, I'm not sure where to go with this.

no, it's your understanding of it that i deny given how limited the scope and sphere of influence are in your world view

your views on the influence of socialization are based on your experiences living in a white western bubble where the virtually non existent bonds with extended family is only surpassed by the weak bonds with your immediate family ~ this is why most of the experiences that shape your character are your own individual experiences and you believe the scope of the influence to be the immediate environment

you also never leave what you've grown accustomed to for unfamiliar territory (usa->canada is nothing) and will probably never experience living in a drastically different environments immersing yourself in cultures and living conditions that are worlds apart from the ones you grew up in for long periods of time

Craig Hicks had a long standing feud with the 3 people he killed. We don't fully know what that feud was about. The fact that he was an atheist is something the media instantly jumped on and sensationalised. It may have little to nothing to do with his crime.



Of course it exists. But you and your religious chums are trying to conflate environmental socialisation with active brainwashing. It just isn't the same thing.

Your argument is basically 'Christian parents brainwash their children do they? Well so do atheist parents. They inadvertently brainwash their kids with the environment they allow them to grow up in.'



Are you're being deliberately dense in an attempt to troll? Because it's not working. I don't believe you're really that dense. I mean you're operating a keyboard so you can't be.

This post was edited by Scaly on May 28 2015 02:55am

What you described would not fit my definition of militant at all. As i stated there are mostly parents who are not openly brainwashing their children. But there are parents who are so anti religion that they advocate violence against the religious. I would categorize religious who advocate violence against the non-religious the same.

are you really trying to make it seem as if there are just as many non religious parents advocating violence against religious people as there are religious parents advocating violence against the non religious?'

do you not understand how absurd it is to believe in violence against the religious from a position of complete indifference towards the existence of god? never mind teaching such things to your children

religious people are not only significantly more likely to encourage violence against non believers and those of other faiths, they're also significantly more likely to engage in violence against their own children for deviance

call me when you hear of an atheist family that disowns or beats their child for being gay, kills their daughter for wearing lipstick, or straps bombs to their child's body in the hopes that they will kill many infidels

No, i am not trying to make it seems as if the numbers are equal. There are far more religious people on earth than atheists so the numbers could never come out that way. My original point was that its perfectly possible to brainwash your children to be religious taking away their choice to believe or not believe, it is also perfectly possible to brainwash your children to be atheists taking away that same choice. Watch a parent tell their child that they are allergic to Cocacola because they dont want them hyped up on sugar and watch the child believe it. Brainwashing isnt exclusive to the religious, that was my only point.

Perhaps anecdotal but i knew a kid in highschool who had parents that were so violently atheist that you couldnt even sit down in their house without an interview and a lecture. Understand that at the time i identified as predominantly agnostic so i wasnt even bantering with them. I understand these types of people are rare, perhaps much more rare than religious fanatics, but they exist. (or at least 2 of them do)

i would love to go by their house asking if they have heard of our lord and saviour jesus christ

actually i think i did this to scaly via pm's a few years ago and the results were hilarious

This post was edited by duffman316 on May 28 2015 07:21am

Why is it different? My parents taught me plenty of things when I was very young... and I pick and choose what I want to accept. My friends(or society) taught me plenty of things, and I choose what I want to accept.