Why? Trump just argued there are NO crimes of which a president can be held accountable. Stop all crying about Joe. He is forever immune to all crimes per Trump himself

He would say what i just saiod

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/supreme-court/trump-urges-supreme-court-allow-stay-ballot-rcna134601

Trump's team has filed their brief to the supreme court challenging the Colorado ballot ban. It covers various legal arguments already addressed in this thread- that the president is not an officer, that neither Trump nor anyone else was ever charged with insurrection, that the 14th amendment is not self-enforcing and requires an act of congress, and the chaos that would be unleashed by disenfranchising half the country and subverting an election


I think the greater issue of presidential immunity won't be decided but should be decided. Our system of government wasn't made out of perfectly interlocking checks and balances that shield against all forms of abuse, I've said before as soon as the civil spirit of democracy is out the window and partisans try to min/max their position by exploiting every provision they can, the entire system falls apart. If a Republican state prosecutor in a heavily conservative district decides to charge Joe Biden with a state crime under a twisted legal theory that alleges he committed insurrection on some trumped up charge, and they bring it to a Biden hating jury who signs off on it, does that give any one local district in one state total veto power over the presidency? Because one 'jury of his peers' decides that he's committed insurrection- not under the federal statute, but simply as an unqualified declaration- he must be removed from the ballot nationwide under the 14th, and at best states left to their own discretion whether to follow suit? And then all the republican controlled states do, then what?
Its not a contrived hypothetical or legal fiction, its what's going on right now against Trump

So the extra details in the Fani Willis case-

The special prosecutor she both hired and had an affair with, was married and divorced his wife while dating her, went on cruises and air travel with her using his credit card to pay for it, at the same time Fani Willis paid him $650k of state funds to prosecute Trump. And yet she also hired on two other outside counsels she wasn't fucking, and they were paid $70k and $93k each. And as it turns out, special prosecutor Wade was so unqualified that he'd never actually prosecuted a felony before, never had a jury trial before, not even clear if he'd even had a bench trial, and was now in charge of the biggest felony case in state history. Until this case, his background was in traffic offenses. And once he was on the case, well;

did they get him yet

When Team Blue sends its people to go after Trump, they're not sending their best. They're sending people who bring lots of problem with them. They're bringing embezzlement. They're adulterers. They're liars. And some, I assume, are good people.

This is what happens when they select people on the basis of their skin colour, their merit be damned.

It backfires, big time.

Claudine Gay, Kamala Harris, Fani Willis, Letitia James, the list goes on.

Sure, but in a state like Georgia, where their party is roughly 50% black, shouldn't Democrats have a deep bench there, a deep pool of talented black people to choose from?

They really should have a good pool to choose from - however there are a couple issues:

The number of qualified black candidates is far smaller than the number of qualified white candidates

And, the selection must be someone who is a devoted member of their cult as opposed to a free thinker (many black people are free thinkers)

Surpeme court arguments happening now.

One thing interesting that I hadn't realized is the following clause in the constitution on its own basically proves that the president is an office under the USA. It has for our entire history been interpreted as stopping a senator from also being president at the same time. If the president is not an office under the united states, then a senator can explicitly be president at the same time.

"2 No Senator or Representative shall, during
the Time for which he was elected, be appointed
to any civil Office under the Authority of the
United States, which shall have been created, or
the Emoluments whereof shall have been
encreased during such time; and no Person holding any Office under the United States, shall be
a Member of either House during his Continuance in Office.
"

This post was edited by Thor123422 on Feb 8 2024 09:49am