For the River to the Sea, Israel shall be free.

yeah, i bet if another month goes by they'll even get ANOTHER letter from the UN.

is this the age old "international pressure will crumble their resolve"? argument. international pressure crumbles to lowering death tolls, too. and all israel has to say is "send aid, we'll greenlight it through the blockade". then when hamas steals it, for all to see, the IDF goes back to being to good guys in the international lens.

israel has nothing but time, because israel has no plans to evacuate gaza like they did before. israel is there to stay. israel is committed to going from faux occupier to benevolent overlords occupying every square inch of gaza until hamas is so ineffective they aren't even viewed as a governing body but rather a guerilla resistance force that occasionally succeeds in blowing up a car.

this was the base level miscalculation of Hamas, and i mean the leaders not the soldier. they went too hard, and are now facing the loss of all. had they invaded and killed 20, 50, maybe even 100 people, and taken no hostages. they'd have faced a short bombing campaign. they poked the bear, and now they're done for. they wont die to the last man, but it doesnt matter, they'll live out a few decades on their knees.

This post was edited by thesnipa on Dec 13 2023 12:10pm

Another war crime by Hamas
Hundreds of tunnels were destroyed already.

what you and apparently many others dont understand is Hamas is a resistance. until Israel leaves the land theyve decided to colonize and occupy, there will always be resistance. Israel wants to act like barbarians? theyll create more and more resistance. Hamas only has to outlast Netanyahu and his time is coming

This post was edited by gnarjay on Dec 13 2023 12:26pm

i dont understand this because? you say i dont?

ive stated that very thing plainly many times in this thread. and ive stated, many times correcting you on what i think, that what israel is doing is a mistake. for that very reason.

i guess we're back to the weekly occurrence of you telling me im wrong for supporting israel, when i dont support israel. see you next week?

I didn't think you were a 500 lb triple headed purple space porpoise either, but that's what we can say when we rid words of their meaning and make descriptors completely arbitrary.
White Phosphorus isn't a chemical weapon and its use as a smoke screen isn't a war crime and its not a complicated subject. Its not used to poison people, its not a weaponized biological reaction, its an incendiary and smoke producer.

You can join the ranks of lily livered bleeding heart liberals screaming about every piece of military tech under the sun, but it won't change the fact that white phosphorus is not a chemical weapon, not banned by chemical weapon treaties, not a weaponized poison, and its use is not a war crime under any international compact recognized by more nations than the principality of sealand. I don't have much patience for arguments from ignorance.

Israel didnt occupy Gaza on October 6th.
And rape isnt act of resistance its an act of barbarism

This post was edited by Many_Names on Dec 13 2023 12:52pm

the logic is nonexistent. the rounds were provided by the US. if the chemical itself is war crime worthy, then we gave them war crimes. all sources agree they aren't a war crime inherently, have legitimate smokescreen uses, and are US supplied. were fired into the area of lebanon the skirmish took place, etc.

no allegations afaik have come that the rounds even burned anyone, sources are just listing the number of killed/injured in the area. and that 2 or so houses were burned, not even that the WP burned them. the biggest smoking gun, pun intended, is that they were allegedly fired at night. and a journalist found them in the morning.

this narrative is splitting hairs on a grand scale.

I mean naturally all the discussions of war crimes are in the shadow of WW2 and the nuremberg trials where we basically waved our magic wand and said that everything we did wasn't a war crime, to clear up any confusion. But that very pointedly included indiscriminate area bombardment and use of mass incendiaries. Besides the entire narrative being complete bullshit like you point out, we set the very rules all this time ago to very specifically exclude these kinds of weapons and tools from any war crime definitions.
Well, Russia wants to claim that Israel flooding Hamas tunnels with seawater is a war crime, maybe Gnar will put down his vkusno i tochka big hit and realize which team he's batting for

so your argument is "cant be a war crime if the US supplied them" ???
are you serious? lol

https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/2023/12/11/israel-us-white-phosphorus-lebanon/

white phosphorous usage is prohibited in civilian areas, which is exactly where the IDF is using it. what about that is "splitting hairs" ? strawman more ffs

This post was edited by gnarjay on Dec 13 2023 01:12pm