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Dec 9 2021 02:41pm
Quote (thundercock @ 9 Dec 2021 20:07)
Isn't that what the Europeans wanted? I suppose it would be similar to South Ossetia in Georgia. Does that strengthen Ukraine from a pragmatic POV because they don't have to spend military/civil resources there?


The Donbass region has a lot of people and industry in it. It's a rundown shithole full of uneducated, easily manipulated idiots (not unlike the Rust Belt in the US), but it represents a significant chunk of Ukraine's population and GDP. So giving it up would be a big blow to Ukraine, even if the region is tying resources at the moment.


To be blatantly honest, I neither know what the European position on the issue is, nor what I personally would prefer to happen. The common denominator of EU countries is that the territorial sovereignty of Ukraine must not be infringed, i.e. they want no full-scale Russian invasion. But they also don't want a lengthy war on the UKR-RUS border. But at the same time, they would not be willing to send their own troops to Ukraine to help defend their territory, and neither do the United States.

It's a complicated problem and I think no one has come up with a convincing solution yet. Biden's tortured logic that "Russia-aligned parties would control the police, schools and public sector in Donbass, but this would not compromise the sovereignty and decision-making ability of the Ukrainian government" fits perfectly into this mould.

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Dec 9 2021 05:52pm
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It's a rundown shithole full of uneducated, easily manipulated idiots


You just described the whole country that is called Ukraine.

Also, you forgot to add that the whole country is rife with corruption, and that was true even before the coup. Now it's about 10x worse.

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There’s a difference there because those people posted that before facts of the case were known. I doubt any of them would’ve posted that stuff even a month later, let alone today.

Of course, you probably get all your shit from Bichute or whatever transsexual Facebook group you’re in
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There’s a difference there because those people posted that before facts of the case were known. I doubt any of them would’ve posted that stuff even a month later, let alone today.

Of course, you probably get all your shit from Bichute or whatever transsexual Facebook group you’re in

the image has content taken from the politicians Twitter accounts. has nothing to do with bichute, your transphobia, or facebook

obviously you want people with political power to judge cases before facts are laid out in a trial. well we have multiple sources that unanimously state that you beat up puppies, kittens, and minority toddlers for “stress relief” on a daily basis. also that you like to watch. until you prove your innocence you are not exonerated and thus guilty.

stick to being just another waste of pale pasty lefty privilege. illiterate loser lmfao, pathetic..

e: reported, btw

This post was edited by excellence on Dec 10 2021 01:37am
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the image has content taken from the politicians Twitter accounts. has nothing to do with bichute, your transphobia, or facebook

obviously you want people with political power to judge cases before facts are laid out in a trial. well we have multiple sources that unanimously state that you beat up puppies, kittens, and minority toddlers for “stress relief” on a daily basis. also that you like to watch. until you prove your innocence you are not exonerated and thus guilty.

stick to being just another waste of pale pasty lefty privilege. illiterate loser lmfao, pathetic..

e: reported, btw



Wow rekting pure pale pasty privileged lefties sure is a tough days work. Nice post sir
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Dec 10 2021 05:07am
the path to extradite assange is now clear, come and grab him sleepy joe ^_^
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https://news.yahoo.com/us-consumer-prices-soared-6-133737840.html

temporary transitory inflation we haven’t seen since 1982
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Quote (Interesting @ 10 Dec 2021 06:36)
There’s a difference there because those people posted that before facts of the case were known. I doubt any of them would’ve posted that stuff even a month later, let alone today.


The willingness to believe a particular interpretation of a case before the facts are even known, just because it fits one's ideology/worldview/narrative, is extremely toxic and poisons race relations.

These people who were immediately willing to believe Jussie Smollett without having seen any evidence, are no better than racist whites who only need to learn the skin color of a defendant to "know" that he's guilty.

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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Dec 10 2021 10:29am)
The willingness to believe a particular interpretation of a case before the facts are even known, just because it fits one's ideology/worldview/narrative, is extremely toxic and poisons race relations.

These people who were immediately willing to believe Jussie Smollett without having seen any evidence, are no better than racist whites who only need to learn the skin color of a defendant to "know" that he's guilty.


Let's be honest lol. At this point it is statistically safe to believe the opposite of whatever ABC, CNN, and MSNBC report if race is involved.

You never hear about black nationalist serial killers. The black school shooting got zero coverage. My disbelief can only suspend so far.
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