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Dec 13 2023 10:16am
Quote (thesnipa @ Dec 13 2023 05:07pm)
from river to seawater. hope hamas can swim.


im sure they can lol
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Dec 13 2023 10:51am
Quote (WhiteSouned @ Dec 13 2023 10:57am)
Yes, we have casualties.
The fact that this war , not “tunnel operation” but war, is lasting for 64 days now is Israeli win.
I prefer it’ll last for a whole year if it means better results.
Hizbollah is been pressed now worldwide to respect U.N. 1701 decision. They can dodge the bullet as many time as they like but eventually something is going to happen. It’s in the table now both in Israel and the international community.


If the IOF was is Gaza for another year with the current amount of casualties remaining constant throughout, it would be seen as an unmitigated disaster, both in gazan deaths and IOF casualties...there's a reason why the Americans gaze a two month deadline to wrap up this PR nightmare.

However I am rooting for the IDF concerning the latest hezbollah/houthi situation, as this is an actual threat on the Israeli people, I just think it's starting to get out of hand.
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Dec 13 2023 11:02am
Quote (zorzin @ Dec 13 2023 06:51pm)
If the IOF was is Gaza for another year with the current amount of casualties remaining constant throughout, it would be seen as an unmitigated disaster, both in gazan deaths and IOF casualties...there's a reason why the Americans gaze a two month deadline to wrap up this PR nightmare.

However I am rooting for the IDF concerning the latest hezbollah/houthi situation, as this is an actual threat on the Israeli people, I just think it's starting to get out of hand.


I meant for the IDF to take as much time as it needs to destroy Hamas military and government capabilities.
What the west seems not to understand is that Israel ain’t going back to the same situation before Oct 7. PR etc means nothing to the public right now. Of course we appreciate and would like to see a broad support but don’t think for a second that sanctions etc scares us. The decision between my security to my financially well being is easy.
Hamas and Hamastinians out.
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Dec 13 2023 11:23am
Quote (zorzin @ Dec 13 2023 10:51am)
If the IOF was is Gaza for another year with the current amount of casualties remaining constant throughout, it would be seen as an unmitigated disaster, both in gazan deaths and IOF casualties...there's a reason why the Americans gaze a two month deadline to wrap up this PR nightmare.

However I am rooting for the IDF concerning the latest hezbollah/houthi situation, as this is an actual threat on the Israeli people, I just think it's starting to get out of hand.


this is illogical. the pattern already hasn't been consistent. and casualties have lessened after the initial surge

numbers per Hamas:

october 23rd: 5k dead (day 16)
nov 6th: 10k dead (day 30)
today: 14,352 dead

moving forward with a daily ceasefire, the IDF in control of basically all of northern gaza, and Hamas already doing a ceasefire, its clear the war is winding down in the context of casualties per day.
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Dec 13 2023 11:36am
Quote (thesnipa @ Dec 13 2023 11:23am)
this is illogical. the pattern already hasn't been consistent. and casualties have lessened after the initial surge

numbers per Hamas:

october 23rd: 5k dead (day 16)
nov 6th: 10k dead (day 30)
today: 14,352 dead

moving forward with a daily ceasefire, the IDF in control of basically all of northern gaza, and Hamas already doing a ceasefire, its clear the war is winding down in the context of casualties per day.


I would think based on the signs we're seeing now, Israel stands to take more casualties in the intense door to door fighting in the south than their more indiscriminate bombardment of the north. Naturally, both these casualty figures would be tiny fractions of the Palestinian side, and of their death toll of October 7th anyway
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Dec 13 2023 11:48am
Quote (Goomshill @ Dec 13 2023 11:36am)
I would think based on the signs we're seeing now, Israel stands to take more casualties in the intense door to door fighting in the south than their more indiscriminate bombardment of the north. Naturally, both these casualty figures would be tiny fractions of the Palestinian side, and of their death toll of October 7th anyway


100%, and both numbers are likely smaller than what the death toll would be if israel, post oct 7th, gave palestine in truth to hamas. shut off the power and water, then removed the blockade. #freepalestine might be the biggest killer of gazans we see yet. especially after they get hungry enough to try and topple hamas and get shot in the streets en masse.
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Dec 13 2023 11:52am
Quote (WhiteSouned @ Dec 13 2023 12:02pm)
I meant for the IDF to take as much time as it needs to destroy Hamas military and government capabilities.
What the west seems not to understand is that Israel ain’t going back to the same situation before Oct 7. PR etc means nothing to the public right now. Of course we appreciate and would like to see a broad support but don’t think for a second that sanctions etc scares us. The decision between my security to my financially well being is easy.
Hamas and Hamastinians out.


The idf can't take its time with thus situation though, there's mounting pressure even within Israel to end this conflict and the rising tensions with Islam.

Of course western pr doesn't mean much to the average Israeli, but have you seen the protests in the west? The streets of London literally got taken over and public support grows daily for these demonstrations. Israeli actions in the ME has devastating consequences for the security of westerners and pretty soon even the most diehard pro Israel evangelical boomer is gona wonder why the Muslim world is wildin' out on their streets unopposed
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Dec 13 2023 11:58am
Quote (thesnipa @ Dec 13 2023 12:23pm)
this is illogical. the pattern already hasn't been consistent. and casualties have lessened after the initial surge

numbers per Hamas:

october 23rd: 5k dead (day 16)
nov 6th: 10k dead (day 30)
today: 14,352 dead

moving forward with a daily ceasefire, the IDF in control of basically all of northern gaza, and Hamas already doing a ceasefire, its clear the war is winding down in the context of casualties per day.


With 60% of all gazan infrastructure has been destroyed
All the schools hospitals mosques and government buildings aswell. The Ministry of Health in Gaza has said that 17,177 people – including 7,112 children – have been killed and 46,000 wounded since the Israeli-Palestinian conflict started on October 7.

In the occupied West Bank, the death toll stood at 266, with 3,365

Now that there is almost literally nothing left to bomb in Gaza civilian casualties are going down, until the starvation and death due to no clean drinking water starts to kick back up.

And hamas in the last 3 days has been on an absolute fucking rampage, if the idf can't flush them out of the tunnels, their casualties are going to increase dramatically.

Time is NOT on the Israelis side
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Dec 13 2023 12:06pm
Quote (Goomshill @ Dec 13 2023 04:41am)
WP is not a chemical weapon, full stop. Its method of action as a weapon is incendiary, or not as used as a weapon at all. Its not used as a poison, it does not fit any internationally recognized definition of a chemical weapon through chemical action on life processes.
A lead bullet is not a chemical weapon. The pacific ocean is not a moon of jupiter. Words have meaning, that is their function, and they're wasted on people who can't recognize that.


how the mighty have fallen, I didnt have Goom defending war crimes on my bingo card but here we are. I guess I should have known after you defended that pedo for dating children
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