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Nov 11 2020 08:10pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Nov 11 2020 08:00pm)
In Europe, we did proper contact tracing throughout the summer. It quickly broke down during the fall wave though. Our local public health offices which were tasked with it just couldnt keep it up. No chance, not at all.


and there we have it

if your argument is fall wave was always inevitable I am not buying it. I saw the cheap flights to France and England lol, tourism was encouraged like no other. Don’t get me wrong, I understand the financial pressure for it, but to say it was inevitable I think is an easy way out.

Unfortunately America still takes the cake for being one of the most uneducated and irresponsible demographics in the world and we will prove it with our numbers in the next 2 months. People arguing over per capita cases right now are comparing two different timelines, give it time to make accurate comparisons.

In America’s defense, the average American is under too much financial pressure and with this national emergency, and complete failure in reliable economic aid, it was a foregone conclusion how responsible our society was ever going to be. When you have the average American withdrawing $10,000 from their 401k that is a big fucking problem.

This is a multiple level systemic American failure from failed federal leadership, failed congress action, failed personal responsibility. I blame the individual the least because half this country is just listening to the leader who was telling people literally a week ago coronavirus is over (in what twilight zone can this statement even be made). You can only be faulted so much for listening to your democratically elected leader

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Quote (Saucisson6000 @ Nov 11 2020 07:39pm)
I think the real problem is reaching 100% capacity THAT early in the winter wave.


some can do 120% but don't want 120% cuz your fucked...
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Nov 11 2020 08:20pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ 11 Nov 2020 21:00)
In Europe, we did proper contact tracing throughout the summer. It quickly broke down during the fall wave though. Our local public health offices which were tasked with it just couldnt keep it up. No chance, not at all.

it’s easy for US to contact trace now: anywhere where people were out celebrating at the white supremacy celebrations over the weekend

https://mobile.twitter.com/jodikantor/status/1325194668917846016
https://mobile.twitter.com/atrupar/status/1325125012945301504

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Nov 12 2020 07:20am
Really low temperatures are coming in december



https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/covid-19-cases-surging-u-s-dark-deadly-winter-n1246740

Vaccine will be ready in 2 months ?

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trumptards and appeasers: 'system is working as intended. if he eventually leaves office one day, no harm was done. this is fine.'
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Quote (fender @ 12 Nov 2020 19:50)
https://i.imgur.com/zn9wPy1.jpg

trumptards and appeasers: 'system is working as intended. if he eventually leaves office one day, no harm was done. this is fine.'


he can start defeating covid by focusing in on this super spreader white supremacy event https://mobile.twitter.com/jodikantor/status/1325194668917846016
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he can start defeating covid by focusing in on this super spreader white supremacy event https://mobile.twitter.com/jodikantor/status/1325194668917846016


He could start defeating covid by doing his job but his followers are more interested in making a global pandemic a political issue.
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Nov 12 2020 10:27pm
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He could start defeating covid by doing his job but his followers are more interested in making a global pandemic a political issue.


The United States is now slightly ahead of France in terms of cases per capita. It's past time to admit that the hands of Western leaders were largely tied and that individual response strategies have made very little difference.

Was Trump's response poor? Absolutely. Did it make a huge difference? Reality is telling us it did not.
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Nov 12 2020 10:30pm
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The United States is now slightly ahead of France in terms of cases per capita. It's past time to admit that the hands of Western leaders were largely tied and that individual response strategies have made very little difference.

Was Trump's response poor? Absolutely. Did it make a huge difference? Reality is telling us it did not.


It's unfair to compare the U.S. exclusively with one of the worst-performing European countries instead of comparing it with Europe as a whole.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Nov 12 2020 10:30pm
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Nov 12 2020 10:36pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Nov 12 2020 11:30pm)
It's unfair to compare the U.S. exclusively to one of the worst-performing European countries instead of comparing it with Europe as a whole.


What countries are equivalent, though? France, Spain, the UK, Italy, and Belgium are better fits from my perspective compared to Austria, Poland, and Germany.

The biggest question is to what extent Europe simply delayed the inevitable. Will they have more cases now as they catch up? Data from France implies they probably might, but we'll have to wait for this to play out.
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