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Dec 13 2023 04:25am
Forensic analysis at the Nahal Oz site appears to show evidence Hamas used chemical weapons during their attack on October 7th
Presumably the explosives the hamas attackers were throwing into the barracks included some type of poison gas grenades
I mean they already committed every other war crime under the sun but I think that's one additional notch in their belt to add;

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According to a report published by Channel 12, the main findings of the investigation indicated that an unspecified but toxic flammable substance was apparently thrown through the entrance of the building which housed the surveillance soldiers’ command center. One of the soldiers at the entrance to the building attempted to extinguish the flames but was unsuccessful and the fire continued to spread.
“They set fire to materials that ignited and spread, which contained toxic gases that could cause suffocation in a few minutes or even less than that,” Channel 12 quoted the officer delivering the report as saying, and added that the estimated time of a few minutes was an optimistic one.


https://www.timesofisrael.com/nahal-oz-troops-killed-by-toxic-gas-during-oct-7-hamas-attack-idf-probe-said-to-show/

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Dec 13 2023 04:31am
Quote (gnarjay @ Dec 13 2023 03:51am)
if all the muslim nations banded together and actually engaged with israel, that entire stretch of land would be rubble. israel antagonizes everyone but only actually fights with people that dont stand a chance. absolute coward, loser bullshit


thats weird, last time i checked they have won multiple wars against the entire region ^_^
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Quote (Goomshill @ Dec 13 2023 05:25am)
Forensic analysis at the Nahal Oz site appears to show evidence Hamas used chemical weapons during their attack on October 7th
Presumably the explosives the hamas attackers were throwing into the barracks included some type of poison gas grenades
I mean they already committed every other war crime under the sun but I think that's one additional notch in their belt to add;



https://www.timesofisrael.com/nahal-oz-troops-killed-by-toxic-gas-during-oct-7-hamas-attack-idf-probe-said-to-show/


Ironic you post hamas using "some type of poison gas grenade" against military targets when Israel used white Phosphorous rounds against civilian targets.

Also my point still stands, hamas is not losing:
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Dec 13 2023 05:15am
Quote (zorzin @ 13 Dec 2023 12:33)
Ironic you post hamas using "some type of poison gas grenade" against military targets when Israel used white Phosphorous rounds against civilian targets.

Also my point still stands, hamas is not losing:
https://i.postimg.cc/PfYk9pbw/1702453459506084m.jpg


White phosphorus was used in military targets.

Hamas is not losing? The only reason they are alive is because they are hiding behind civilians.
The territory is lost, more than 35% of his man power is gone, they barely shoot rockets to central israel.
I dont remember when I heard Alarm last time.

I call it losing and losing hard

And the deads are 2 officers 8 soldiers

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White phosphorus was used in military targets.

Hamas is not losing? The only reason they are alive is because they are hiding behind civilians.
The territory is lost, more than 35% of his man power is gone, they barely shoot rockets to central israel.
I dont remember when I heard Alarm last time.

I call it losing and losing hard

And the deads are 2 officers 8 soldiers


No hamas is not losing. They are alive because of their tunnels. The idf pumping a cement/water/sand slurry into the tunnel breaches may flood/block some, but there are 100's of miles of tunnels.

Also they are no longer shooting rockets into Israel because they now have hezbollah/houthis for that. Hamas is winning this propaganda war and Israel is running out of time. It's taken over 60 days and hamas' capabilities are just as strong as they were before the war broke out.

This conflict is alot like the troubles in Ireland. It was only when the IRA started bombing banks and the financial district, that the British sat down at the negotiating table. Israel's wallet is now being attacked:

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Quote (JessiWan @ Dec 13 2023 05:40am)
Well, it depends. Did Jews antagonize people first?

Secondly, citation needed for "Muslims". This is a very broad statement. You make it sound like all of the world's Muslims are in on it.

Lastly, why are there so many people who want to exterminate Jews? First Hitler, then the Muslims, and now some Americans. Does everybody have a problem, or do your angelic little Jews have a problem?


its not a broad statement, wanting israel and all jews gone is a mainstream opinion

you still dont get it, israel could be a christian state or any other religion and we would have this problem

islam does not tolerate other religions, i repeat, islam does not tolerate other religions

jews do indeed have a problem, they are too successful and lesser people hate it

its never successful people hating on them

the leftie liberal antisemites? all complete losers with useless degrees

hitler and his guys, when they started? also complete real life losers projecting their failure on others and they somehow managed to turn it into an ideology

jews turned a patch of complete dirt into a modern country in one generation, worthless desert turned into farmland and now the caveman muslims are butthurt

Quote (Goomshill @ Dec 13 2023 11:25am)
Forensic analysis at the Nahal Oz site appears to show evidence Hamas used chemical weapons during their attack on October 7th
Presumably the explosives the hamas attackers were throwing into the barracks included some type of poison gas grenades
I mean they already committed every other war crime under the sun but I think that's one additional notch in their belt to add;



https://www.timesofisrael.com/nahal-oz-troops-killed-by-toxic-gas-during-oct-7-hamas-attack-idf-probe-said-to-show/


so iran sent them some chemicals to play around with?

shocked pikachu

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Quote (zorzin @ Dec 13 2023 04:33am)
Ironic you post hamas using "some type of poison gas grenade" against military targets when Israel used white Phosphorous rounds against civilian targets.

Also my point still stands, hamas is not losing:
https://i.postimg.cc/PfYk9pbw/1702453459506084m.jpg


White Phosphorous in flares and smoke screens isn't a chemical weapon. Same bullshit line people have harped on about in a half dozen armed conflicts in the past few decades
The evidence is Hamas threw poison gas grenades into the Nahal Oz command center, which is a use of a chemical weapon. Israel already recovered materials from the October 7th attackers showing they had instructions on how to build cyanide grenades (a copy of a 2003 al qaeda instructional), but didn't have confirmed reports of any actually being used. Now they've got evidence chemical weapons were used at Nahal Oz, and its unclear what type it was.
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Quote (Goomshill @ Dec 13 2023 07:01am)
White Phosphorous in flares and smoke screens isn't a chemical weapon. Same bullshit line people have harped on about in a half dozen armed conflicts in the past few decades
The evidence is Hamas threw poison gas grenades into the Nahal Oz command center, which is a use of a chemical weapon. Israel already recovered materials from the October 7th attackers showing they had instructions on how to build cyanide grenades (a copy of a 2003 al qaeda instructional), but didn't have confirmed reports of any actually being used. Now they've got evidence chemical weapons were used at Nahal Oz, and its unclear what type it was.


I have actually had the pleasure of using a WP flare, it is 100% a chemical weapon, especially when used in a densely populated area. Big daddy America has already condemned israels usage of wp and investigations(lol) are underway about the multiple 155mm wp artillery rounds that were found.

But yes homemade cyanide grenades (double lol) are a worse offense, just give mossad a couple more days to manufacture the evidence required to trick the masses.

Meanwhile the Israelis STILL can't get the story straight about Oct 7th (you got any evidence yet of those 40 beheaded babies?) But I'm sure the cyanide grenades were an absolute tragedy that deserves a war tribunal to investigate it:



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Quote (zorzin @ Dec 13 2023 06:30am)
I have actually had the pleasure of using a WP flare, it is 100% a chemical weapon, especially when used in a densely populated area. Big daddy America has already condemned israels usage of wp and investigations(lol) are underway about the multiple 155mm wp artillery rounds that were found.

But yes homemade cyanide grenades (double lol) are a worse offense, just give mossad a couple more days to manufacture the evidence required to trick the masses.

Meanwhile the Israelis STILL can't get the story straight about Oct 7th (you got any evidence yet of those 40 beheaded babies?) But I'm sure the cyanide grenades were an absolute tragedy that deserves a war tribunal to investigate it:

https://i.postimg.cc/RF3pNQkG/1702459780304394m.jpg


WP is not a chemical weapon, full stop. Its method of action as a weapon is incendiary, or not as used as a weapon at all. Its not used as a poison, it does not fit any internationally recognized definition of a chemical weapon through chemical action on life processes.
A lead bullet is not a chemical weapon. The pacific ocean is not a moon of jupiter. Words have meaning, that is their function, and they're wasted on people who can't recognize that.
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Quote (Goomshill @ Dec 13 2023 07:41am)
WP is not a chemical weapon, full stop. Its method of action as a weapon is incendiary, or not as used as a weapon at all. Its not used as a poison, it does not fit any internationally recognized definition of a chemical weapon through chemical action on life processes..


WP is a chemical weapon, and it was used against civilians.
"Internationally recognized definition" is simply saying that how its used is very important. Using it as a "smoke screen" is not justifiable in Gaza, especially considering the insane civilian casualties already present. This stuff literally melts concrete
https://www.politico.com/news/2023/12/11/israel-white-phosphorous-john-kirby-00131088
But the chemical substance can also stick to skin and cause potentially fatal burns and respiratory damage. Its use could violate international law if its used intentionally as a weapon against civilians, according to the World Health Organization.

Reports in October accused Israel of using white phosphorus in the area, and rights group Amnesty International said the matter should be investigated as a war crime. The Post reported that at least nine civilians were injured in the attack.

Markings on the rounds show that they were made in Louisiana and Arkansas in 1989 and 1992, per the analysis. Other markings, including the letters “WP,” indicate the chemical substance was present.
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