Quote (Hamsterbaby @ Dec 12 2023 08:55pm)

you can cry all day saying that might doesn't make right , but what can you do about it.
The international community have 75 years or so to fix it but it never happen.
The UN can't do anything about it except for using words we " condemn ".

So what are you going to do. You want to do something ? Give Iran , Saudi , Lebanon , Yemen , Egypt, Qatar , UAE Nukes . Maybe that will deter . Or what you going to do?

If you know your neighbor is that powerful and any mistake that you make i.e Oct 7 will guarantee your destruction and you still do it.
You know Netanyahu will be getting screwed over soon because of his corruption case and the citizens of Israel is going to topple him and you can't wait and you still do it.

If that is not stupidity I don't know what is.

Quote (JessiWan @ 13 Dec 2023 12:58)

Except nobody said it's not stupid. We are just trying to tell you about the ethical dimension of it, which according to you, doesn't exist. You keep crying about how geopolitics is amoral, like it's some kind of revelation. We know that already.

Quote (Hamsterbaby @ Dec 12 2023 09:06pm)

Yes it is amoral, it is not a revelation, it is how the world works. If human beings are so ethical to a point where compassion triumph all, we wouldn't be having wars and proxy wars ya?
And guess what , these are the leaders and governments that are being chosen by democratic means and by people who wants the world to be a better place with more equality and compassion ya ?

So tell me where is the ethical dimension of it? Or should we look at it in a way that what the Israelites are doing , what the Americans are doing , what Russians are doing we can go on and on and on are all for national interest, security , survival and for some leaders to cement their legacy in history and during their premiership.
National interest don't care about your feelings.

Quote (JessiWan @ 13 Dec 2023 13:09)

Ethical concerns are more than just my personal feelings. Sorry that you see it this way, but I am not surprised, tbh.

Quote (gnarjay @ 13 Dec 2023 04:51)

if all the muslim nations banded together and actually engaged with israel, that entire stretch of land would be rubble. israel antagonizes everyone but only actually fights with people that dont stand a chance. absolute coward, loser bullshit

Quote (Hamsterbaby @ Dec 12 2023 09:16pm)

There is nothing ethical about politics.
Hamas are pretty stoked that this is happening as well to their fellow Palestinians.

It is a game of cards, Israel is going to win this battle hands down. Will they win the war at the end of the day, that is another issue that we have to wait to find out.
Of course , I see it this way, because I can say that I know exactly what both parties are thinking in their head.

Quote (AleKsRoBerto @ 13 Dec 2023 13:44)

Ok idiot. We understand you’re a moron. Thanks again

Quote (Hamsterbaby @ Dec 12 2023 09:53pm)

is that the only thing you can say ? or you have something substantial to bring on the table and argue / debate your ideas?

Quote (AleKsRoBerto @ 13 Dec 2023 08:14)

I already do. I said that the Israelis should stop genociding and acting justified in doing so. Moron

Quote (Many_Names @ 13 Dec 2023 14:20)

There is no genocide in Gaza

And you didnt answer my questions
Do Jews have the right to self determination
And do Israel has the right to exists.