Quote (IceMage @ Feb 23 2022 10:52pm)
I know I keep coming back to this topic... but Trump praised Putin yesterday and today, talking about how he's smart and savvy, and how he's made genius movies. Tucker Carlson(and others on Fox) are going full-blown "AKSHULLY Ukraine and the US government are the baddies here".
Trump broke people's brains on the right so hard that they've completely abandoned the commitment to democracy, supporting our allies, and opposing our adversaries. There's no longer any sense of national unity around anything... if Joe Biden and CNN say that Russia invading Ukraine is bad, then card-carrying members of the right must disagree, because they cannot align with the people they hate on any issue.
It's insanity.
As per Obama...
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As regards the two-year-old conflict between Ukraine and Russia, the president said Ukraine is a core interest for Moscow, in a way that it is not for the United States. He noted that, since Ukraine does not belong to NATO, it is vulnerable to Russian military domination, and that “we have to be very clear about what our core interests are and what we are willing to go to war for.”
It's great to support your country, I would right or wrong. And it's perfectly fine to acknowledge that Putin has designs for control of Ukraine, that's obviously the case. But we don't have a pressing interest here. We've already spelled out that we will defend NATO territory by force, as it should be. We know that we must defend Taiwan, because it is of critical national importance to the United States. We don't have to defend Ukraine, and we've gone so far as to say we will not. And if we aren't willing to defend it, what exactly are we doing here?
This post was edited by bogie160 on Feb 23 2022 10:16pm