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Oct 22 2020 01:31pm
lol



Those dems are one corrupt bunch



This post was edited by Djunior on Oct 22 2020 01:31pm
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Oct 22 2020 01:39pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Oct 22 2020 02:27pm)
What takes the cake imho is when Goom started to argue that Biden becoming president wouldnt matter anyway once it became that his outlook is really grim. The reasoning he gave for this surprising opinion was hysterical, it went along the lines of "Trump was so hyper-successful and -productive that there will simply be nothing left to do for Biden, no judicial openings, no big foreign policy issues, no domestic structural issues, basically nothing of impact (beyond the immediate covid aftermath)". :rofl:

The evolution of his take on the election looks like it was taken straight out of a psychology textbook about the five stages of grief.


I've explained it a few times. I find it kind of odd you suggest that the skeptical, blasé view of the election is somehow hysterical. Like, I'm being hysterical when I say that its not going to matter much and very little is at stake- but not when I change tack and say the frontrunner is a literal manchurian candidate and could destroy our democracy. Its like the word has no meaning to you. What do you think "hysterical" means?

The fact is, Trump & McConnell already rammed through an incredible amount of lower court and supreme court judges- including one scotus pick right now- so that without court packing, the next president will have far less picks than normal. And Biden isn't radical enough to court pack anyway, and the most likely outcome is republicans retain the senate so its a moot point. And Trump indeed already accomplished most of both his domestic and foreign policy agenda he campaigned on in 2016. There's relative peace in the mideast, ISIS has been destroyed, Al-Baghdadi and the #2-10 guys are all dead, Arab states and Israel are normalizing relations, he got his tax cuts, the economy boomed and jobs came back (then covid), his wall is building for the most part, he's slowed immigration to a trickle, he's deregulated industry and thrown up tariffs and trade barriers. Meanwhile Biden has been campaigning by throwing cold water on liberal democrats who demand he overturn all of Trump's legacies on day 1. Hell, Biden has even been cool on trade barriers, less aligned with the neoliberals.
So you've got Trump, who can't even list a single policy objective for his next 4 years because he's already done it already, and Biden, who doesn't want to repeal any of Trumps popular policies and might not have congress to do much of it anyway. Whichever gets elected, it wouldn't really change the Obamacare status quo much. Its the same on most of the issues. Status quo will prevail.

And you think that cold water and disenthusiasm is hysterical?

I think saying Joe Biden is beholden to China and sold out our democracy and might end our sovereignty as we know it, is hysterical. And it looks like its true, too.
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Oct 22 2020 01:44pm
Quote (thesnipa @ Oct 22 2020 02:28pm)
at the end of the day i think biden is likely guilty of some shady underhanded dealings in big stakes international affairs, and i think trump was just a doofus who got played by smarter players than himself and political actors who get the rules he never bothered to read. but what i find really funny is neither guy, its your take on them.

edit: honestly i think just a bit too much 4chan for u. even if it gives u a bit of a technological hacking insight it might have put a bit too much tinfoil into ur heart.


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Oct 22 2020 02:16pm
Uh oh. Pressure is on for Joe..

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/president-trump-plans-to-bring-hunter-biden-associate-tony-bobulinski-as-guest-to-debate

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Oct 22 2020 02:19pm
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Its okay, this is a non-story and will all disappear and nobody will care about it and after Biden is elected, nobody will have any reason to bring up his taking millions in bribes from the chinese communist elite
This is the state of our democracy:



/e improved ^^

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Quote (Thor123422 @ Oct 22 2020 01:53pm)
Well yeah, why wouldn't we go from outrage to "this is fine" when Trump's financial benefiting from his position are literally 10x the magnitude of this.

Like I've said before, even if we assume everything Trump supporters have ever criticized Biden of is true, it still doesn't rise to the level of things Trump does out in the open.


Taking millions of dollars in bribes from Chinese officials is orders of magnitude worse than owning a hotel. It's not something we should even waste time discussing.

After years of puffed out chests congratulating each other on his/her own moral superiority, the walls come crashing down the minute credible corruption allegations are levelled against Biden. It is probably the most comically obscene case of hypocrisy in American political history.
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Taking millions of dollars in bribes from Chinese officials is orders of magnitude worse than owning a hotel. It's not something we should even waste time discussing.

After years of puffed out chests congratulating each other on his/her own moral superiority, the walls come crashing down the minute credible corruption allegations are levelled against Biden. It is probably the most comically obscene case of hypocrisy in American political history.


well of course, the half-life on pendulum swings for political hypocrisy in 2020 is like 3 months, MAX.

its ok that Biden did it because Trump "lowered the standard for a president", and also Trump has to go because he's an embarrassing president, etc etc etc.

Should have been a Tulsi-Yang ticket or Yang-Tulsi ticket so we could have actually had someone whos a decent person instead of 2 corporatist scumbag panderers.

one thing i do agree with Goom here tho is 2020-2024 is a lame duck presidency, its Covid dealings, some CJ reform, some infrastructure spending, and that's it.
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Oct 22 2020 02:23pm
Quote (Goomshill @ Oct 22 2020 01:19pm)
Its okay, this is a non-story and will all disappear and nobody will care about it and after Biden is elected, nobody will have any reason to bring up his taking millions in bribes from the chinese communist elite
This is the state of our democracy:

https://i.imgur.com/Gw5dsKM.png


I'm not concerned. Trump is President until January and if there's wrongdoing, Barr will absolutely nail Biden. What's there to worry about?
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Oct 22 2020 02:24pm
Quote (Goomshill @ Oct 22 2020 03:19pm)
Its okay, this is a non-story and will all disappear and nobody will care about it and after Biden is elected, nobody will have any reason to bring up his taking millions in bribes from the chinese communist elite
This is the state of our democracy:

https://i.imgur.com/Gw5dsKM.png


It will be pretty funny when Trump releases a statement about the Bobulinski story and points to him.

"Heeeeey speaking of this, we got this guy right over here!"
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