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Oct 5 2019 05:29pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ Oct 5 2019 05:26pm)
Doesnt dispute what I said. His methods could be super-supernatural for all I care


God has the most serious mind, it's impossible for me to tell you the future, but in the bible i learned that when God sends a prophet to deliver a message, it should be taken most serious

how can I give you the future? I'm living with you in the present right now, and that's the best I can come up with, is God making a plan and seeing it through...

even the dead do not know the future... if I were to die tomorrow I would still not be able to know the future
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Suffering exists in the world because its really funny
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God has the most serious mind, it's impossible for me to tell you the future, but in the bible i learned that when God sends a prophet to deliver a message, it should be taken most serious

how can I give you the future? I'm living with you in the present right now, and that's the best I can come up with, is God making a plan and seeing it through...

even the dead do not know the future... if I were to die tomorrow I would still not be able to know the future


Cool, but God doesnt know the future and is unable to prevent suffering
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Oct 5 2019 06:02pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ Oct 5 2019 05:55pm)
Cool, but God doesnt know the future and is unable to prevent suffering


Well I am unable to prevent suffering, doesn't mean I take pleasure in it
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Oct 5 2019 09:10pm
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Well I am unable to prevent suffering, doesn't mean I take pleasure in it


So you acknowledge God cant prevent suffering and cant determine what will happen in the future
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Oct 5 2019 09:58pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ Oct 6 2019 09:25am)
Cool, but God doesnt know the future and is unable to prevent suffering


incorrect

Isaiah 46:9-10

For I am God, and there is no one else; I am God, and there is no one like Me,
Declaring the end and the result from the beginning,
And from ancient times the things which have not [yet] been done,
Saying, ‘My purpose will be established, And I will do all that pleases Me and fulfills My purpose,’

Our Creator (God) already knew you, and I before we were even conceived in the womb.
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Quote (ChivasRegal @ Oct 5 2019 10:58pm)
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Isaiah 46:9-10

For I am God, and there is no one else; I am God, and there is no one like Me,
Declaring the end and the result from the beginning,
And from ancient times the things which have not [yet] been done,
Saying, ‘My purpose will be established, And I will do all that pleases Me and fulfills My purpose,’

Our Creator (God) already knew you, and I before we were even conceived in the womb.


Then God also created sin, since he saw it coming before creation.

Either God created sin and therefore is responsible for suffering, or he didn't and doesn't know the future.
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Oct 5 2019 10:19pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ Oct 6 2019 01:42pm)
Then God also created sin, since he saw it coming before creation.

Either God created sin and therefore is responsible for suffering, or he didn't and doesn't know the future.


again incorrect

sin is transgression of the law.
breaking any of the 10 Commandments is to sin. We do this with our free-will or of our own choice.
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again incorrect

sin is transgression of the law.
breaking any of the 10 Commandments is to sin. We do this with our free-will or of our own choice.


Can't exactly have choice if God knows our choice ahead of the time, and set the conditions we would be in when we made the "choice".
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Oct 5 2019 10:38pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ Oct 6 2019 01:56pm)
Can't exactly have choice if God knows our choice ahead of the time, and set the conditions we would be in when we made the "choice".


God knowing what we will do, doesn't affect our choice or decisions. He wants us all to not sin and follow in Jesus footsteps.
There is amazing rewards and an eternal life of joy if we can just stop believing satans lies and his temptations. This is not easy I know, but it all comes down to our choices or freewill.
I choose Jesus.
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