how long is this brexit going to last?

They (EU and UK) keep re-deciding how long. Last I read was 2019-2020.

Here's another anti-immigration, article this morning.


Anti-immigrant party tipped to win as Slovenia votes

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-slovenia-election/anti-immigrant-party-tipped-to-win-as-slovenia-votes-idUSKCN1IY0V1




I've been upset with immigration laws, all over the world, since back a couple years ago when Obama, tried to give Pennsylvania an order on how many immigrants the state had to take.
This idea of a quota telling states and countries, how many immigrants they have to take...just seems loike a bad idea to me.

When I first heard about Brexit, my first thought was: I bet they're pissed off about quotas. I also noticed that a lot of the more eastern European countries, more or less said FU to quotas.

Just rubs me the wrong way.

Britain does not have quotas for refugees. We can opt out of any of the EU's quota proposals. We take as many, or as little, as we want.

I'll take your word for it. Back right before the Brexit vote I got the impression that the UK was pissed about all the immigrants, they had to take.

I don't really know UK or EU law, it was just what I thought at the time.

Brexit was about many things, including the free movement of people which is supplying British businesses with practically limitless, low-cost labour. People, rightly or wrongly believe that this contributes to keeping wage growth low. While some may have voted for brexit based on the "refugee crisis", it is highly unlikely that it was a sizable reason for the vote, since it was made crystal clear before the vote that we don't take any refugees we don't want to.

Don't need to take my word for it, those are the rules:

Britain has won a significant carveout from new EU rules on asylum seekers that will allow the UK to continue expelling migrants that arrive via other EU countries.

Under plans announced on Wednesday by the European Commission to overhaul Europe’s much-criticised rules on asylum seekers, most EU countries would be required to participate in a new quota system that would force them to accept migrants if a front-line state becomes overwhelmed, as Italy and Greece were at the height of the refugee crisis. Failure to comply would result in fines of €250,000 per person.

But in a boost for David Cameron, prime minister, Britain would be allowed to opt out of the quota system and continue with current rules that allow for expulsions.

The tldr version of irvines post is that a key driver of the brexit vote was immigration, not refugees. Refugees make up a tiny percentage of the immigrant population, whereas Romanians and Polish come over in droves under the EU’s freedom of movement policy.

"....Slovenia becoming a country that will put the well-being and security of Slovenians first”

its absolutely ridiculous, that this is even worth mentioning nowadays
thats the purpose of having a state in the first place



and for good reason, freedom of movement sounds nice and all, but you can ask a random local craftsmen how much fun it is to compete with ultra low wage workers from eastern europe


This post was edited by ampoo on Jun 3 2018 02:27pm

You could ask consumers how fun it is to pay a premium for local craftsmen if workers from eastern europe do the same job for cheaper

services would still be affordable
but when you cant make a living anymore it becomes critical, i know for a fact that some freelance guys here dont even make the minimum wage

i have no problem at all with people coming here to work, but we need rules to stop dumping

I don't support breaking the law by paying/working for under the minimum wage either.