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Oct 10 2023 03:23pm
Quote (Landmine @ Oct 10 2023 02:16pm)
It’s not the other way around. There is no Palestine and never was. Just a group of arab terrorists. The trash that you promote. They would kill you by the way and most of the democrats would be killed for their beliefs. That’s how ignorant you are.


It doesn't matter if there is a Palestine. There have been people living in that region for hundreds of years. To those people, that region is their ancestral land. And when you introduce foreigners into said area, conflict will inevitably arise.

Also, not all Palestinians are terrorists. Some of them are just normal people who want to live their lives.
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Oct 10 2023 03:23pm
Quote (fender @ Oct 10 2023 02:19pm)
only on saturday, huh? not when israel established an apartheid state, or every time they gunned down unarmed protesters, or when they abduct and torture innocent people, when they starve and imprison millions, and make them sick?
only when the occupied terrorise the occupiers, "human rights" are violated, huh? funny how that works.

the attacks were barbaric and inexcusable, but to act like israel's illegal occupation isn't the main reason for them is just dishonest af...


You're a fucking Nazi bro

the attacks are "inexcusable" yet here you are EXCUSING them in the same paragraph.

Just say the words: you support the terrorist attack and you want to kill all Jewish people
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Oct 10 2023 03:24pm
Quote (Landmine @ Oct 10 2023 02:16pm)
It’s not the other way around. There is no Palestine and never was. Just a group of arab terrorists. The trash that you promote. They would kill you by the way and most of the democrats would be killed for their beliefs. That’s how ignorant you are.


>50% of Palestine is 18 or under , >40% are 14 or younger. you are full of hatred and propaganda
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Oct 10 2023 03:25pm
Quote (gnarjay @ Oct 10 2023 03:33pm)
I thought Jared Kushner brought peace to the middle east guys???!


Jared Kushner's foreign policy overture has been aimed at uniting the Israelis and the Saudi-aligned powers in the mideast, to the explicit exclusion of the Iranians and their proxies like Palestinians. That's the whole point. We had decades of pussyfooting around with a three-way power dynamic of Israel vs KSA vs Iran, with America trying to tepidly reach out to the Iranians while in bed with the Saudis. The bold initiative of Trump was to take an axe to that entire peace process and just give up on the Iran deal and Iranian appeasement, normalize relations between the KSA and Israel and build a regional alliance against Iran. Instead Biden came along and froze the Trump era efforts, and then China filled the power vacuum by inserting itself to mediate between Iran and the KSA to try to patch that divide. After which, 3 years late, Biden was trying to revitalize the Saudi-Israeli process that Trump started and we were expecting an announcement in a matter of weeks or months

That's also likely a reason why Hamas, possibly at Iran's guidance, organized this attack, to try to scuttle the Saudi-Israeli relations.
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Oct 10 2023 03:29pm
Quote (Goomshill @ Oct 10 2023 04:25pm)
Jared Kushner's foreign policy overture has been aimed at uniting the Israelis and the Saudi-aligned powers in the mideast, to the explicit exclusion of the Iranians and their proxies like Palestinians. That's the whole point. We had decades of pussyfooting around with a three-way power dynamic of Israel vs KSA vs Iran, with America trying to tepidly reach out to the Iranians while in bed with the Saudis. The bold initiative of Trump was to take an axe to that entire peace process and just give up on the Iran deal and Iranian appeasement, normalize relations between the KSA and Israel and build a regional alliance against Iran. Instead Biden came along and froze the Trump era efforts, and then China filled the power vacuum by inserting itself to mediate between Iran and the KSA to try to patch that divide. After which, 3 years late, Biden was trying to revitalize the Saudi-Israeli process that Trump started and we were expecting an announcement in a matter of weeks or months

That's also likely a reason why Hamas, possibly at Iran's guidance, organized this attack, to try to scuttle the Saudi-Israeli relations.


In addition to why Hamas lead gaza was left out of the deal, including only the West Bank

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Oct 10 2023 03:31pm
Quote (Goomshill @ 11 Oct 2023 05:25)
Jared Kushner's foreign policy overture has been aimed at uniting the Israelis and the Saudi-aligned powers in the mideast, to the explicit exclusion of the Iranians and their proxies like Palestinians. That's the whole point. We had decades of pussyfooting around with a three-way power dynamic of Israel vs KSA vs Iran, with America trying to tepidly reach out to the Iranians while in bed with the Saudis. The bold initiative of Trump was to take an axe to that entire peace process and just give up on the Iran deal and Iranian appeasement, normalize relations between the KSA and Israel and build a regional alliance against Iran. Instead Biden came along and froze the Trump era efforts, and then China filled the power vacuum by inserting itself to mediate between Iran and the KSA to try to patch that divide. After which, 3 years late, Biden was trying to revitalize the Saudi-Israeli process that Trump started and we were expecting an announcement in a matter of weeks or months

That's also likely a reason why Hamas, possibly at Iran's guidance, organized this attack, to try to scuttle the Saudi-Israeli relations.



Long story short.

If Trump make Israel and Saudi buddy buddy again
Continue with TPP and not tear it apart.
Work things out with Ukraine and Russia.

1. No war in mideast
2. No war in Ukraine
3. China keep quiet and loosen up bank regulations ( I will make more money)
4. Belt and Road via central Asia no more.
5. Taiwan China less quarrel.

This post was edited by Hamsterbaby on Oct 10 2023 03:32pm
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Oct 10 2023 03:32pm
Quote (El1te @ 10 Oct 2023 23:23)
You're a fucking Nazi bro

the attacks are "inexcusable" yet here you are EXCUSING them in the same paragraph.

Just say the words: you support the terrorist attack and you want to kill all Jewish people


we already know that you're not intelligent enough for nuanced positions and context, that every argument, which doesn't fit into your simplistic understanding of the world, goes right over your head.

no need for your public displays of ignorance and butthurt.
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Oct 10 2023 03:32pm
Quote (gnarjay @ Oct 10 2023 03:24pm)
>50% of Palestine is 18 or under , >40% are 14 or younger. you are full of hatred and propaganda


Nice ploy when you have no argument.
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Oct 10 2023 03:33pm
Quote (El1te @ Oct 10 2023 02:23pm)
You're a fucking Nazi bro

the attacks are "inexcusable" yet here you are EXCUSING them in the same paragraph.

Just say the words: you support the terrorist attack and you want to kill all Jewish people


He didn't excuse the terrorists. In fact, he said, "the attacks were barbaric and inexcusable". He is just saying that Hamas terrorism could be in part attributed to Israeli actions.
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Oct 10 2023 03:34pm
Quote (Landmine @ Oct 10 2023 02:32pm)
Nice ploy when you have no argument.


yeah I guess its ok to call a population of mostly children "nothing but arab terrorists". no sense in arguing with genocidal nazi extremists
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