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Nov 9 2020 10:53am
Quote (IceMage @ 9 Nov 2020 11:46)
https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/1325827891247128578



Hopefully Trump takes full credit for any vaccines, that way his cult might actually take them. Although it's best to always assume the worst about Trump, so he'll most likely do his best to undermine a vaccine. Helping kill tens of thousands during his presidency won't be enough... he needs to keep the death count going after he leaves office.


he already tweeted about it this morning as being a good thing

the anti-vaxxer brigade really is an odd bunch. group of weinstein worshipping hollywood types and also the true anti-science crew
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Nov 9 2020 10:56am
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Stable genius can't figure out it's 1/outside 2/they use mask

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Nov 9 2020 10:59am
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Nov 9 2020 09:40am)
Was there any chance a vaccine could solve our troubles with this winter? At the earliest, it would take until some point in December to get FDA approval, then it would take another 1-2 months at the minimum to produce and distribute the vaccine in relevant quantities, and then another couple of months until there is enough vaccine-induced herd immunity that covid restrictions could safely be dropped.

The best possible scenario was probably to get ~10-15% of the population vaccinated before the end-of-winter wave hits in late February/early March, but the timeline for that was always daunting.


It would still be a huge relief for the world if we could get back to relatively normal by, say, June. And it's great for the morale of the people if there's a clear timeline for when this shit will be over.


I don’t understand your question, was there any chance THIS winter could have been assisted with vaccine? I am in dark just like you and found out about vaccine on CNBC. No idea in regards to how early it can be rushed and FDA timeline tbh. I just know things happen slowly, especially in US, and we are at this second in time being slaughtered by this current wave. I don’t see any mechanism where this vaccine helps us now. I think will mitigate future outbreaks/waves like spring/summer and next winter. We will have to see how many people are hit by this wave, and therefore however many people are left to vaccinate. Keeping in mind this virus will likely mutate are some form, however every mutation being less harmful. Definitely light at the end of the tunnel. Average INfectious diseases doc consensus was ~70% effectiveness and ~90% is a testimony to how smart some humans are (not me) and what we can do when we put our minds to a task

This really is a crushing blow to the inevitable herd immunity argument as well. If we (the world minus East Asia) were disciplined for just a bit longer, several months even, it would have been the difference in tens of thousands of lives. It makes the loss of life seem like a waste honestly

Pass a stimulus bill right now, and give the world hope of a timeline now you have this result. I think society can adhere better to guidelines when there is an end date. Have the world suck it up for a little while longer and give them financial relief so they don’t have livelihoods to worry about... and let’s try get back to the lives as we know it as vaccinations are rolled out

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Nov 9 2020 11:01am
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Stable genius can't figure out it's 1/outside 2/they use mask

https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2020/11/white-house-celebration-dc-2.jpg




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Quote (Saucisson6000 @ Nov 9 2020 10:56am)
Stable genius can't figure out it's 1/outside 2/they use mask

https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2020/11/white-house-celebration-dc-2.jpg


These fucking people should be fined tbh. This outside + mask argument is not a 100% foolproof mechanism. Should be limiting unnecessary public exposures and the country, both parties, should be on same page with this. Don’t think people understand that if numbers keep going up at their current rates or anything similar to Europe’s trend , then we are fucked. Vaccine not helping us with this

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LOL barely valid argument, thought you were tougher than that
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Nov 9 2020 11:10am
Quote (Bazi @ Nov 9 2020 08:59am)
I don’t understand your question, was there any chance THIS winter could have been assisted with vaccine? I am in dark just like you and found out about vaccine on CNBC. No idea in regards to how early it can be rushed and FDA timeline tbh. I just know things happen slowly, especially in US, and we are at this second in time being slaughtered by this current wave. I don’t see any mechanism where this vaccine helps us now. I think will mitigate future outbreaks/waves like spring/summer and next winter. We will have to see how many people are hit by this wave, and therefore however many people are left to vaccinate. Keeping in mind this virus will likely mutate are some form, however every mutation being less harmful. Definitely light at the end of the tunnel. Average INfectious diseases doc consensus was ~70% effectiveness and ~90% is a testimony to how smart some humans are (not me) and what we can do when we put our minds to a task

This really is a crushing blow to the inevitable herd immunity argument as well. If we (the world minus East Asia) were disciplined for just a bit longer, several months even, it would have been the difference in tens of thousands of lives. It makes the loss of life seem like a waste honestly

Pass a stimulus bill right now, and give the world hope of a timeline now you have this result. I think society can adhere better to guidelines when there is an end date. Have the world suck it up for a little while longer and give them financial relief so they don’t have livelihoods to worry about... and let’s try get back to the lives as we know it as vaccinations are rolled out


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Quote (Bazi @ 9 Nov 2020 18:05)
These fucking people should be fined tbh. This outside + mask argument is not a 100% foolproof mechanism. Should be limiting unnecessary public exposures and the country, both parties, should be on same page with this. Don’t think people understand that if numbers keep going up at their current rates or anything similar to Europe’s trend , then we are fucked. Vaccine not helping us with this


Using mask and being outside is reducing the spread to super-a-lot, and you know it.
Everyone remove a mask and we got a real problem. especally when people are screaming (real danger is rally here, oups i means really here.)
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Using mask and being outside is reducing the spread to super-a-lot, and you know it.
Everyone remove a mask and we got a real problem. especally when people are screaming (real danger is rally here, oups i means really here.)


Reducing the spread Completely separate from avoiding unnecessary risks. Just because u reduce spread, doesn’t mean spread is not occurring with these shenanigans

Earlier Riots had clear effect on Virus numbers

This is political hackery tbh saying they have masks so it’s fine to protest/rally. I’m all for protecting individual freedoms, but I am moreso for common sense and health state of the country being hurt by handfuls of irresponsible people. How many people will die from these unnecessary actions. More realistically, how many people will go bankrupt from medical bills with these unnecessary actions?

All the pro right protesting /pro left rallying . All unnecessary. All should be fined, don’t state mandates currently restrict crowds > X? Isn’t that the federal policy as well still with corona task force?

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Quote (Bazi @ 9 Nov 2020 18:17)
Reducing the spread Completely separate from avoiding unnecessary risks. Just because u reduce spread, doesn’t mean spread is not occurring with these shenanigans

Earlier Riots had clear effect on Virus numbers

This is political hackery tbh saying they have masks so it’s fine to protest/rally. I’m all for protecting individual freedoms, but I am moreso for common sense and health state of the country being hurt by handfuls of irresponsible people.

All the pro right protesting /pro left rallying . All unnecessary. All should be fined, don’t state mandates currently restrict crowds > X? Isn’t that the federal policy as well still with corona task force?


Outside + masks. Both together.
Ofc it's preferable to not have this kind of event, despite it's exceptional, and i guess not organized in advance...
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