Quote (Many_Names @ Dec 12 2023 11:09am)
Israelis never called from the river to the sea thats chanting for genocide - what you heard are Hamastinians calling for the destruction and extermination of jews in Israel.?
do you want to rephrase what you said or do i need to go get sources again ?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/From_the_river_to_the_sea"From the river to the sea" (Arabic: من النهر إلى البحر, romanized: min an-nahr ʾilā l-baḥr; Palestinian Arabic: من المية للمية, romanized: min il-ṃayye li-l-ṃayye, lit. 'from the water to the water'[1][2]) is a political slogan that refers geographically to the area between the Jordan River and the Mediterranean Sea, an area also described as Palestine and Eretz Israel,[3] which currently includes the State of Israel and the Palestinian territories: the West Bank, which includes East Jerusalem, and the Gaza Strip.[4][5]
The phrase was popularised in the 1960s as part of a wider call for Palestinian liberation creating a democratic state freeing Palestinians from oppression from Israeli as well as from other Arab regimes such as Jordan and Egypt.[6][7] In the 1960s, the PLO used it to call for a democratic secular state encompassing the entirety of mandatory Palestine which was initially stated to only include the Palestinians and the descendants of Jews who had lived in Palestine before the first Aliyah, although this was later expanded.[8][9] Palestinian progressives use it to call for a united democracy over the whole territory[10] while others say "it's a call for peace and equality after ... decades-long, open-ended Israeli military rule over millions of Palestinians."[11]
This slogan has come under international scrutiny following its usage by various Palestinian factions, particularly since Islamist militant faction Hamas used the phrase in its 2017 charter. The slogan's usage by such Palestinian militant groups has led critics to argue that the slogan implicitly advocates for the dismantling of Israel, and a call for the removal or extermination of the Jewish population.[12] Some countries have considered criminalizing its use.[13][14]
The 1977 election manifesto of the right-wing Israeli Likud party said: "Between the sea and the Jordan there will only be Israeli sovereignty."[15][16][17] Similar wording has also been used more recently by other Israeli politicians.[18]
The precise origins of the phrase are disputed.[20]According to American historian Robin D. G. Kelley, the phrase "began as a Zionist slogan signifying the boundaries of Eretz Israel."[3] Israeli-American historian Omer Bartov notes that Zionist usage of such language predates the establishment of the State of Israel in 1948 and began with the Revisionist movement of Zionism led by Vladimir Jabotinski, which spoke of establishing a Jewish state in all of Palestine and had a song with the slogan: "The Jordan has two banks; this one is ours, and the other one too," suggesting a Jewish state extending even beyond the Jordan River.[21]
Kelley writes that the phrase was adopted by the Palestine Liberation Organization in the mid-1960s; the 1964 charter of the PLO's Palestinian National Council called for "the recovery of the usurped homeland in its entirety". The 1964 charter stated that "Jews who are of Palestinian origin shall be considered Palestinians if they are willing to live peacefully and loyally in Palestine", specifically defining "Palestinian" as those who had "normally resided in Palestine until 1947".[3][22] In the 1968 revision, the charter was further revised, stating that "Jews who had resided normally in Palestine until the beginning of the Zionist invasion" would be considered Palestinian.[22] According to Maha Nassar of the University of Arizona, the phrase was popularized in the 1960s as part of a wider call for Palestinian liberation, creating a democratic state and freeing Palestinians from oppression from Israeli as well as from other Arab regimes such as Jordan and Egypt.[6][7]
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TLDR: its an Israeli slogan, adopted by the Palestinians.This post was edited by ferdia on Dec 12 2023 06:02am