Quote (caswallen @ Oct 5 2019 05:41pm)

God created all the universe, and every Man woman and child, but Satan has accused humanity of not being worthy of eternal life, and so he introduces Sin into the world, to prove to our father God that people really are evil shitty things...

so when I see a serial killer confess that demons made him do it, with voices in their heads telling them to do thusly... I take the confession...

don't become what Satan has accused you of being, people can change completely through the holy spirit, through and through different person, redeemed in Gods eyes...

God has let this world continue because he believes in us... believes in us so lovingly he even gave his one Son for us...

now I'm not saying God is going to do everything for us, we have a life to live, we have choices to make, but when I see people going through mass hysteria ready to start a riot, ready to go into battle, then I also see a skilled manipulator (Satan) make his move...
don't raise your swords against God... take up the sword of Spirit the Holy spirit and you will be saved

Quote (Thor123422 @ Oct 5 2019 06:46pm)

You didn't answer the question. Did God create evil/sin ? Because it seems that God knew Sin would happen before he created everything.

Quote (Thor123422 @ Oct 5 2019 04:46pm)

You didn't answer the question. Did God create evil/sin ? Because it seems that God knew Sin would happen before he created everything.

Quote (caswallen @ Oct 5 2019 05:56pm)

Satan created Sin when he tempted Eve to eat the apple of the fruit of knowledge when God specifically said not to eat it...

this is the original Sin, disobedience of Gods laws, and there was only 1 law God gave them technically... therefore Satan introduced Sin into the world and was also punished by God

"Let no one say when he is tempted, “I am being tempted by God”; for God cannot be tempted by evil, and He Himself does not tempt anyone. But each one is tempted when he is carried away and enticed by his own lust. Then when lust has conceived, it gives birth to sin; and when sin is accomplished, it brings forth death.” James 1:13-15

Quote (Thor123422 @ Oct 5 2019 04:57pm)

and did God know it would happen before he created Adam and Eve?

Quote (caswallen @ Oct 5 2019 06:05pm)

I don't know because I can't know all the things God knows... but when we look at the past to decide such things, we have to know that even when Adam and Eve walked the earth it was the "present" for them, and they had a choice...

just like we all have choices to make

Quote (Thor123422 @ Oct 5 2019 05:07pm)

So then God does not know what will happen in the future

Quote (caswallen @ Oct 5 2019 06:12pm)

God can influence world events if he chooses, it happened all the time with the country of Israel from the bible...

think about it like this...

if I knew I was going to give someone some money, because I planned to, then I tell people "I am going to give this man money 10 weeks from now"

and then I go and do that, isn't that me knowing the future to some extent?

the way I see it, is God already knows what he is about to do, and he is all powerful, therefore if he makes an extreme decision of something very glorious he is going to do, and he doesn't tell anybody except he gives a prophecy to someone....

is that not God knowing the future? the future he plans may be so extreme that nobody else but God himself could accomplish it...

Quote (Thor123422 @ Oct 5 2019 05:19pm)

No, its not the same.

So then Gods plan isnt set in stone and there can be curveballs that even God cant see and he has to account for it. He cant just create the final product, he has to use a method to shape things.

Quote (caswallen @ Oct 5 2019 06:22pm)

his methods are supernatural