Denial does not make you avoid accountability. I gave you the answer to the Genealogy. Not only did I give you all the Bible verses but I even linked you an outside source. It's up to you to wrestle with it. If you ask me or anyone else then you will receive the same answer. Deal with it.

The Doctrine of Sin will help you appreciate how much you were forgiven at the cross and will be able to see the Bible from a new perspective.

It's funny how we could talk about any complicated subject, whether it be Astronomy, Biology, Physics, Music, Computer Science, Movie plots or anything you think of. Yet when the subject turns to the Bible, suddenly you are incapable of comprehending what is written.

It's like you suddenly lose all ability to think critically. This is why we cannot progress with any more topics until you have the ability to comprehend the passages.

Here is a straightforward example of how you are being described by a 2,000 Year old book:



Psalm 14:1-3 NIV.

The fool says in his heart, “There is no God.” They are corrupt, their deeds are vile; there is no one who does good.
The LORD looks down from heaven on all mankind to see if there are any who understand, any who seek God.
All have turned away, all have become corrupt; there is no one who does good, not even one.

Romans 1:21-25 ESV

For although they knew God, they did not honor him as God or give thanks to him, but they became futile in their thinking, and their foolish hearts were darkened. Claiming to be wise, they became fools, and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images resembling mortal man and birds and animals and creeping things.

Therefore God gave them up in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, to the dishonoring of their bodies among themselves, because they exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever! Amen.
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So tell me again how you are not being described here and how the claims were baseless?

The views of God have not been shattered for thousands of years and it won't start with addones Facebook memes.

Christianity will not die off lol.

This post was edited by D_urRRR on Feb 11 2026 07:06am

And if it doesn't what does it bothers you lol

Is there a way humans ought to live?

Does the world improve or decay when our collective goal is absent God's guidance? I argue that global leadership is largely absent of the Holy Spirit, and we get to endure the hardships of people who care more for their own enrichment than the betterment of the land they inhabit and the people they swore to enrich. God is your only protection from Man.

While considering the current state of world, are you an effective citizen within a democracy, or the victim of Godless politicians who endlessly convince you that your hardship is justified because of their lack of control?

We're on a steady decline, hopefully your captors have a change of heart.

Divine intervention, oh ya, nvm, my guess is you dont believe in that.

Again, is there a way we ought to live?

are you saying if you were God you would be doing things to people that blasphemed you. what would you do to them. what is it you think you deserve?

scripture says since sin entered the world its in a fallen condition. all you done here is confirm scripture.

i agree with your last meme

This post was edited by TiStuff on Feb 11 2026 10:42am

You gave me an very far fetched but technically possible explanation on what you personally think happened but nothing concrete. That's like a kid giving an excuse to the teacher that the dog ate his homework.
Nowhere in the bible did it state that Jacob and Heli were half brothers you just assumed they were for the purposes to make your narrative work.
That is not proof that is a guess.

You were given the context in which the bible was written concerning Jacob and Heli. This isn't an assumption anyone here including myself made or is making.

Matthew 1:16 says: “Jacob begot Joseph the husband of Mary"
Luke 3:23 says: "Joseph, the son of Heli"

So Joseph is called the son of Jacob (in Matthew), the son of Heli (in Luke).

Levirate marriage, Jacob and Heli were brothers. One died without children, and the other married the widow (Deuteronomy 25:5–6), making Joseph the biological son of one but the legal son of the other.

Mary’s genealogy, Luke is giving Mary’s lineage, and Heli was actually Mary’s father (making Joseph “son of Heli” by marriage).

The Bible never states that Jacob and Heli were half brothers.
That explanation comes from early Christian tradition harmonizing Matthew and Luke.

You will continue getting the same explanation as you continue to misrepresent this particular subject.

The answer is not going to change. I have a much deeper concern based on what you have been saying. For you it seems that unless every single detail is explicitly stated then it's impossible to interpret.

I'm going to give you a challenge. It's not explicitly stated here but can you think of what might have happened next for the leper?

Matthew 8:1-4 ESV

When he came down from the mountain, great crowds followed him. And behold, a leper came to him and knelt before him, saying, “Lord, if you will, you can make me clean.” And Jesus stretched out his hand and touched him, saying, “I will; be clean.” And immediately his leprosy was cleansed. And Jesus said to him, “See that you say nothing to anyone, but go, show yourself to the priest and offer the gift that Moses commanded, for a proof to them.”