Like a trump supporter have any idea of what he's saying. Sorry for this.

It's not a "cold", it's covid, and US has to be prepared to something long and massive, like my WACOUBA-WALELE.

Is it the one at Bethesda?

Aha, something that we (mostly) agree on. And I think that for the most part, we're already at a point where the health systems are okay in areas that didn't enforce harsh draconian lockdowns. Likewise, places like New York and New Jersey where they simply sent infected patients back to nursing homes, it's pretty good.

Most of the spikes we're seeing with the advent of cold weather in the US are low severity to asymptomatic. I think the lockdown of Paris and other measures in France are simply going to make it worse. Right now, I almost feel bad for Frenchy there. They've got it bad from the policy decision side.

Any thoughts on timeframes for a workable vaccine?



The virus is a coronavirus. A cold virus. Whether or not it has more severe comorbidity factors than other colds, it's still a cold virus, dude.

At the worst of the worst, it still doesn't even close to compare to the Spanish flu, or any other number of cold/flu viruses that have swept the world over the last century or two.

I'm sorry that you don't like reality, and I'm certainly not saying it's not serious to those who fall in the at risk groups, but it's a cold type virus, and shares all characteristics with every other coronavirus, other than it's end effect in comorbidity patients. We know it's worse in the winter. We know it's got an incubation period of up to like 14 days (though I saw studies indicating potentially 28 days on the outside in rare cases), it can be spread through all bodily fluids including vapor, and the easiest way to kill it if you're worried about your home's cleanliness is to use lysol, bleach, or something similar that's designed to kill such viruses when you're wiping down counters, sinks, furniture, etc.

.... Well since you can play with the word "cold" i wish you a nice one...



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Biden's going to have to deal with this, while a significant portion of the country has been primed to believe it's fake news, mitigation efforts are silly, and the vaccine that eventually arrives will probably become a dumb culture war as well.

This post was edited by IceMage on Nov 6 2020 07:22pm

I was told by Biden supporters that he is the ultimate moderate, the ultimate decent guy and the ultimate bridge builder. If anyone can unite the country, it's him.

Hes already offering republicans spots in his cabinet, so I guess its kind of sadly true. The truly enlightened centrist president we've all needed this whole time.

Pretty sure I responded to this before... but nobody can unite this country. All we can do is elect people who don't make divisions worse.

You have?

I've said he's pretty moderate but not the other stuff.

He's a good guy but I have no basis to say hes the ultimate decent guy.

Of course no one can unite the country with rosy or high-minded rhetoric alone, that much should have become apparent about 1 year into Obama's presidency. But this does not mean that there can't be substantive solutions to the substantive issues which are dividing America. We can elect people who heal the divisions a little bit. The problem is just that neither side is willing to make painful concessions, and neither side is able to crush the other side with a landslide victory which resolves the gridlock in their favor.

In principle, it would of course be possible to soothe the divisions. It's just that the electoral incentives, as well as the interests of the media owners, prevent that from happening. A political leader would commit career suicide doing that. So what it would take is someone with bipartisan credentials, who is in a position of power where people are willing to listen to him, and who is very close to the end of his political career, so that he doesnt have to worry about the electoral consequences anymore. Truth be told, when I made my previous post, I was half-trolling, but now that I thought about it some more, Joe Biden might indeed be in a position to make this "heroic sacrifice". I really doubt that he wants to run for a 2nd term anyway. Unfortunately, I'm afraid that the logic of polarization and of moderation being electorally punished will prevent Congress from following his lead.


Does that make any sense?





I think IceMage was saying that Biden is a coalition or bridge builder. The "ultimate xyz guy" was of course hyperbole.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Nov 6 2020 07:53pm