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Dec 2 2021 12:28pm
Quote (thesnipa @ Dec 2 2021 01:06pm)
fox, cnn, msnbc, etc are all both news and entertainment. fox argued (successfully) in court that a specific show was to be taken as entertainment only. but all of them present recent events and lay out facts for those events, they all do this in a biased manner and selectively present facts while putting biased commentary over the top.

what definition would you use for "news" that Fox does not meet, but for example CNN or another network does?


And let me tell you why its important CNN and other legitimate News organization have not and will not do what fox is doing.
Fox is limiting their liability as they push false information as "news" then later claim in court that it is in fact for entertainment not news.
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Dec 2 2021 12:30pm
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Fox has argued more than once they are not a news organization at all.

Solely entertainment.


the same argument that every corporate pro-DNC propaganda network uses?

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And let me tell you why its important CNN and other legitimate News organization have not and will not do what fox is doing.
Fox is limiting their liability as they push false information as "news" then later claim in court that it is in fact for entertainment not news.


fox has cut segments of straight news and replaced them with hosted opinion shows and panels because it got more ratings, CNN has these same types of programs but also has more of the straight new segments.

overall you seem fairly evasive in answering really simple questions, so im gonna just be done from here.
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the same argument that every corporate pro-DNC propaganda network uses?

https://i.imgur.com/oA6KAx0.jpg


Yeah, pretty much. The problem is they are portrayed as news It is honestly despicable. They are knowingly and intentionally leading their own followers astray.
Now look how many people believe this nonsense. Especially on this site. I mean look the one dude is quoting them like they are legitimate news.
When they admitted (more than once) they are not news.
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Dec 2 2021 12:34pm
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Yeah, pretty much. The problem is they are portrayed as news It is honestly despicable. They are knowingly and intentionally leading their own followers astray.
Now look how many people believe this nonsense. Especially on this site. I mean look the one dude is quoting them like they are legitimate news.
When they admitted (more than once) they are not news.


even you are an example of this, with your recent statements of still believing in debunked "Trump Russia collusion" conspiracy theory
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fox has cut segments of straight news and replaced them with hosted opinion shows and panels because it got more ratings, CNN has these same types of programs but also has more of the straight new segments.

overall you seem fairly evasive in answering really simple questions, so im gonna just be done from here.


You are either choosing to be ignorant or just don't understand. There is a huge difference between what we are saying.
Fox has argued their whole network is NOT a news network at ALL.

I'm not talking about putting shows on or not I am talking about how they portray themselves to the public is not what they said in court.
This did not happen at CNN so why compare?
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Dec 2 2021 12:36pm
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even you are an example of this, with your recent statements of still believing in debunked "Trump Russia collusion" conspiracy theory


It was never debunked lol

Just because it was not proven does not mean it was disproven.


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You are either choosing to be ignorant or just don't understand. There is a huge difference between what we are saying.
Fox has argued their whole network is NOT a news network at ALL.

I'm not talking about putting shows on or not I am talking about how they portray themselves to the public is not what they said in court.
This did not happen at CNN so why compare?


CNN has argued in court that many of their flagship programs are also indeed entertainment, and not news.

they keep traditional newshour facts forward programming for 2 reasons, ratings (it always plays really well on public space viewership like gyms, airports, etc) and also to maintain the legal argument that they are still a news network.

its the entire reason i asked in the first place, because in shades of grey they're all the same for US networks. other than BBC and some PBS networks, that are still fairly news without punching it up.
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Dec 2 2021 12:41pm
Quote (thesnipa @ Dec 2 2021 01:39pm)
CNN has argued in court that many of their flagship programs are also indeed entertainment, and not news.

they keep traditional newshour facts forward programming for 2 reasons, ratings (it always plays really well on public space viewership like gyms, airports, etc) and also to maintain the legal argument that they are still a news network.

its the entire reason i asked in the first place, because in shades of grey they're all the same for US networks. other than BBC and some PBS networks, that are still fairly news without punching it up.


Ugh Lol are you seriously not understanding???

There is a HUGE difference from arguing a program isn't news and arguing your WHOLE network isn't news. I hope this clears things up for you because I cannot be anymore redundant than i already have.

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Quote (SorceressAndrea @ Dec 2 2021 08:36pm)
It was never debunked lol


how many people put in jail for "criminal conspiracy with russia against usa"?

oh zero?

ok then

im sure Adam Schiff will finally present his "undeniable evidence" any day now which he lied he had, LIVE on CNN about XX times
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