Got word all ICU beds are occupied in the Twin Cities MN area now. They have been moving patients to Duluth and Rochester now.

Our state site says 2729 ICU beds in use as of 11/2. August 1St state report said we could scale up to 2900 ICU beds during surge.

https://www.health.state.mn.us/diseases/coronavirus/situation.html

https://mn.gov/covid19/data/response-prep/response-capacity.jsp

This post was edited by RedFromWinter on Nov 3 2020 07:09am

I don't want to say too much because of the ways things are but things are getting pretty bad in my corner of the world.

Very naïve. When taken to courts over "vape bans" the various states that attempted to do it couldn't prove any harmful effects of standard vaping other than those caused solely by nicotine itself.

Yet now they're taxing vape products. Why do most smokers who quit transition to vape? Because most smokers don't care about the "nicotine". It's the pacifier effect that keeps them smoking. Vaping is a healther, cleaner, and cheaper alternative.

However, after the mass settlement agreement, having large numbers of smokers quit and switch to vaping has harmed the bottom line. The states that settled spent that money before it was paid out. Now they need to get paid.

So forget CDC recommendations that vaping is a positive way to transition away from smoking, and we should financially encourage the switch, let's just tax the shit out of that too.

Saint Mary's (Mayo Clinic hospital in Rochester MN) preparing to repurpose staff and additional floors to COVID.

Edit: I have family that works there. There is emergency staff meeting at 230. Already using areas for overflow...

This post was edited by RedFromWinter on Nov 5 2020 10:48am

korona virus is fake i thought?

Tell that to my cousin who works the COVID ICU.

Our health minister who is also a physician made a 1 hour speech today, along with specialists.
Basically they were trying to justify that they did the maximum to save lives but:
- We will have much more deaths than first wave
- Christmass will not be a normal one

US will probably follow IMO, just a post here to say it's bigger than before, prepare it.

This post was edited by Saucisson6000 on Nov 5 2020 12:20pm

It's a cold. 20% of all common cold strains are coronaviruses. The strain has spread globally. It's never going away. The fact that it's got a high comorbidity lethality rate in the elderly doesn't change that.

Those who have gotten it and recovered will be fine. Those who haven't gotten it will either hard quarantine while waiting for a vaccine, or will get it. As with other cold/flu viruses, it's going to be worse during the winter.

None of this is new information. Most of it was already known last December, just like the fact that Masks helped reduce the transmission back in last December (medical researchers from Taiwan communicated this to the WHO who promptly ignored them).

You're very far behind on what to expect.

Covid will almost certainly remain part of the human ecosystem in perpetuity unless we do a mass vaccination program that results in eradication.

The issue is going to be getting to a point where most people are immune, either through a vaccine or infection, and then community spread won't be large enough to swamp every health system in the world at the same time.

u godless heathens do christmas?

i honestly would have expected xmas wasnt a thing much in France, is it like a non-religious version where u trade cheese and white flags?