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Dec 11 2023 07:20am
Quote (Many_Names @ Dec 11 2023 07:46am)
Israel did fight real armies without uncle sam and they have beaten them in all 3 fronts more than 3 times.


Quote (WhiteSouned @ Dec 11 2023 07:46am)
Israel already fought an actual army, more than one actually, without the US.
This is yet another comment from you which is simply factual wrong. are you doing it on purpose ?


It's no longer the 60's where Israel had an unmatched advantage in the middle east due to US taxpayer funded military hardware.

The problem now is solely missles/drones and overloading the iron dome. The houthis have publicly said that they not only will target Saudi oil fields but they'll target key infrastructure inside Israel like desalination plants and nuclear facilities.

Hezbollah also has the missle capacity to overload the iron dome by itself, hell even Hamas was able to get one of their new m-90 rockets through and successfully hit Tel Aviv.

All this is before any other Muslim country starts to wake up thanks to the ethnic cleansing going on in Gaza. Again, the biggest factor in all of this is that it is really uncomfortable for the Israelis to concede the fact that they are no longer perceived as the eternal victim, but as a white apartheid state engaging in an actual genocide on the world's biggest open air prison that has been under a blockade for 17years.



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It's no longer the 60's where Israel had an unmatched advantage in the middle east due to US taxpayer funded military hardware.

The problem now is solely missles/drones and overloading the iron dome. The houthis have publicly said that they not only will target Saudi oil fields but they'll target key infrastructure inside Israel like desalination plants and nuclear facilities.

Hezbollah also has the missle capacity to overload the iron dome by itself, hell even Hamas was able to get one of their new m-90 rockets through and successfully hit Tel Aviv.

All this is before any other Muslim country starts to wake up thanks to the ethnic cleansing going on in Gaza. Again, the biggest factor in all of this is that it is really uncomfortable for the Israelis to concede the fact that they are no longer perceived as the eternal victim, but as a white apartheid state engaging in an actual genocide on the world's biggest open air prison that has been under a blockade for 17years.


You know, writing “open air prison”, “genocide”, “ethnic cleansing” , “apartheid” like it’s a fact , doesn’t make it so.
I can participate the same way -
The Palestinians constantly rejects every solution being offered to them. They elected Hamas and therefore responsible for today’s oct 7 holocaust. The Palestinians are chanting “from the river to the sea..” which implies for their intentions of committing a genocide over the Jewish population which lives between the river to the sea. It is simply horrible how the Palestinians are constantly playing the victims as it is clear that they are the aggressors every time. Let me remind you that without their assault on Israel in oct 7, Israel wouldn't even be in Gaza to begin with. Palestinians like to present themselves as refugees even though I never saw a refugee camp built out from concrete. I don’t recall refugees from Syria living in a house.. do you?

You see what I did ? Try to keep the propaganda out and be open for an actual debate.

This post was edited by WhiteSouned on Dec 11 2023 07:36am
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It's no longer the 60's where Israel had an unmatched advantage in the middle east due to US taxpayer funded military hardware.

The problem now is solely missles/drones and overloading the iron dome. The houthis have publicly said that they not only will target Saudi oil fields but they'll target key infrastructure inside Israel like desalination plants and nuclear facilities.

Hezbollah also has the missle capacity to overload the iron dome by itself, hell even Hamas was able to get one of their new m-90 rockets through and successfully hit Tel Aviv.

All this is before any other Muslim country starts to wake up thanks to the ethnic cleansing going on in Gaza. Again, the biggest factor in all of this is that it is really uncomfortable for the Israelis to concede the fact that they are no longer perceived as the eternal victim, but as a white apartheid state engaging in an actual genocide on the world's biggest open air prison that has been under a blockade for 17years.

https://i.postimg.cc/5N6R2Nvs/1702300270343509.jpg


Exactly the opposite we didnt have unmatched advantage
Today we do…
I also suggest you compare Israel population at 1960 to understand how out matched we were

If you think fighting hezbollah will look like the war in Gaza you simply have no idea what you’re talking about

Hamas is under blockade because they chose to annihilate Israel.


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Quote (Meanwhile @ 11 Dec 2023 15:19)
I'm sorry if it's not a neo-zionist covering it. I doubt the guy published that without having been backed by the website & his hierachy.


Iran is the human right chairman
And lebanese expert calls it apartheid.
Okay thank you
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Quote (Many_Names @ 11 Dec 2023 14:39)
Iran is the human right chairman
And lebanese expert calls it apartheid.
Okay thank you


Nope. Article was from 2022, even before the massive war crimes with bombings. And before Iran had the administrative seat.

Btw;

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel_and_apartheid#UN_related_reports

In a 2007 report, U.N. Special Rapporteur for Palestine John Dugard wrote, "elements of the Israeli occupation constitute forms of colonialism and of apartheid, which are contrary to international law" and suggested that the "legal consequences of a prolonged occupation with features of colonialism and apartheid" be put to the International Court of Justice.

THIS IS LONG STORY FACT -_-
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Dec 11 2023 07:59am
Quote (Meanwhile @ 11 Dec 2023 15:47)
Nope. Article was from 2022, even before the massive war crimes with bombings. And before Iran had the administrative seat.

Btw;

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel_and_apartheid#UN_related_reports

In a 2007 report, U.N. Special Rapporteur for Palestine John Dugard wrote, "elements of the Israeli occupation constitute forms of colonialism and of apartheid, which are contrary to international law" and suggested that the "legal consequences of a prolonged occupation with features of colonialism and apartheid" be put to the International Court of Justice.

THIS IS LONG STORY FACT -_-

I know I am simply stating that the UN is irrelevant
And i will repeat it again you dont know if israel committed war crimes
You do know Hamas committed war crimes because they were stupid enough to record it on their head camera

And there was no occupation on Gaza

Jews are no colonials in Judea.

This post was edited by Many_Names on Dec 11 2023 08:00am
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Nope. Article was from 2022, even before the massive war crimes with bombings. And before Iran had the administrative seat.

Btw;

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel_and_apartheid#UN_related_reports

In a 2007 report, U.N. Special Rapporteur for Palestine John Dugard wrote, "elements of the Israeli occupation constitute forms of colonialism and of apartheid, which are contrary to international law" and suggested that the "legal consequences of a prolonged occupation with features of colonialism and apartheid" be put to the International Court of Justice.

THIS IS LONG STORY FACT -_-


The U.N. failed to introduce a single UNGA resolution on the human rights situation in China, Venezuela, Saudi Arabia, Cuba, Turkey, Pakistan, Vietnam, Algeria or on 175 other countries.
Should we really take them seriously? The UN did failed miserably in solving this conflict, I think it’s about time that they’ll do their job instead of condemning Israel every Thursday.
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Quote (WhiteSouned @ Dec 11 2023 08:34am)
You see what I did ? Try to keep the propaganda out and be open for an actual debate.


This is the greatest propaganda war in human history and you're asking me to not participate in it?
You are simply angry because the perception of Israelis as a peaceful group of people simply defending herself against the barbaric hordes of Muslims, is slipping with each child killed in Gaza. The mask is slowly slipping off.

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2023-12-10/ty-article/.premium/idf-reports-1-593-wounded-since-october-7-but-hospital-data-is-much-higher/0000018c-552d-df4b-a78e-d52f47ac0000



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This is the greatest propaganda war in human history and you're asking me to not participate in it?
You are simply angry because the perception of Israelis as a peaceful group of people simply defending herself against the barbaric hordes of Muslims, is slipping with each child killed in Gaza. The mask is slowly slipping off.

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2023-12-10/ty-article/.premium/idf-reports-1-593-wounded-since-october-7-but-hospital-data-is-much-higher/0000018c-552d-df4b-a78e-d52f47ac0000

https://i.postimg.cc/bwmz7RXZ/1702249221692819m-1.jpg


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Quote (zorzin @ Dec 11 2023 04:03pm)
This is the greatest propaganda war in human history and you're asking me to not participate in it?
You are simply angry because the perception of Israelis as a peaceful group of people simply defending herself against the barbaric hordes of Muslims, is slipping with each child killed in Gaza. The mask is slowly slipping off.

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2023-12-10/ty-article/.premium/idf-reports-1-593-wounded-since-october-7-but-hospital-data-is-much-higher/0000018c-552d-df4b-a78e-d52f47ac0000

https://i.postimg.cc/bwmz7RXZ/1702249221692819m-1.jpg


Oh no, I’m not angry at all.
I’m too old to be angry over a debate on the internet.
I’m just pointing out at holes in your posts. “facts” as you post them are taken out from tabloids at best.
You simply echo what ever fits your views and don’t even bother to check if it’s true or not.
Isn’t it strange that you know exactly how many children are killed in Gaza and not how many combatants ?

This post was edited by WhiteSouned on Dec 11 2023 08:28am
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