This is what being on the wrong side of literally every interaction looks like.

You wish “violent jay”.

the dark carnival is calling you back brother

Trump received a higher share of the popular vote in 2020 than in 2016. Him beating Hillary while losing to Biden had nothing to do with him or his voters, and everything to do with Hillary being such a god-awful candidate that she couldn't keep her coalition together and lost some 5% of the vote to third party candidates.



2021 called, it wants its talking points back.

As a side note: I'm not a nihilist, I just prioritize my various values, believes and policy goals differently.






This is an incredibly disingenuous argument, and you know it. When Trump left office, we were in the middle of a once-in-a-century health crisis which forced the economy into a state of stasis. In fact, Biden, his Democrats and most "public health """experts"""" wanted even harsher and longer-lasting lockdowns. If Trump had listened to them, the state of the economy when he left office in January 2021 would have been even worse. Fact of the matter is that the economy was booming under Trump until a white swan event messed it all up, an event that affected the whole world and that he is neither responsible for nor could have prevented.

It's also a fact that cost of living is way up since January 2021, so that's one huge economic measure which is not better under Biden. Neither is the deficit, on which Biden one-upped even Trump's already atrocious record.

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Lets not forget that when Trump was elected, not only were we in the midst of a stagnating recession with no signs of improvement, but the neocon economic authorities were loudly predicting that Trump's election would result in a 4 digit DOW by the end of 2017. Which was right up there in Krugman's greatest hits, like 'the internet is a fad' and 'inflation is transitory'. Trump didn't inherit the conditions for success, he created them. The markets surged on his promises of deregulation and investment and tariffs, businesses were willing to spend and hire if they felt protected. Biden meanwhile inherited his inflation bubble, but he also inherited his covid recovery. So far if Bidenomics has anything to claim, its going to be whether he can call the supposed soft landing a success- whether its real or just delayed, and whether the inflation has been so backbreaking its worse than a recession. Only MSNBC is mistaking it as good.

As I said, she was not popular because American voters are fucking retarded. If American voters were not retarded, Trump would've never been close to being president, and he wouldn't be close again.



Informed Trump voters are voting for evil because they believe a greater good will come, but they are wrong.



Trump wasn't in charge of lock downs, governors of states were. Trump was mostly a mouth piece who spouted wrong information every chance he got, while refusing to wear a mask in public because he's horribly insecure. Even though his administration executed Operation Warp Speed he never got vaccinated in public because he's a fucking coward who isn't willing to sacrifice his image for the greater good of America.

It’s almost like you’re conveniently using when Trump left office because you know it was marred by covid. Most economic metrics were better in Trumps term than Biden’s, with the exception of something like job gains, because Biden took office at a time when millions were still out of work because of the pandemic.

Unemployment is about the same, however it fell to a half-century low of 3.5 percent with Trump. It’s at 3.7 now.

Gas prices more than doubled between April 2020 and April 2022

Mortgage rates have more than doubled in the past two years.

Inflation is the highest it’s been in 40 years.

Interest rates have hit a 20 year high.

Consumer sentiment dropped to its lowest level ever in 2022.

So you have to give your cult leader a handicap? Lol.

This is an impressive compelling analysis of why Hillary lost, you should be a pollster.

We're not the ones who believe the ends justify the means, you are. Your faction believes that Trump is literally Hitler thus doing evil (rigging elections, throwing peaceful dissidents into prison, lawfare, and removing your opponent from the ballot) is justified.

Without going to deeply into this inane post, can you think of any reason at all demand for gas was at a historic low in April 2020? Anything at all?