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Jan 14 2021 11:22am
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Call Rudy he's crying. Imagine thinking Trump is capable of friendship especially after making him a loser.






Trump 'refusing to pay' Rudy Giuliani's legal fees after falling out
President said to be offended by personal lawyer’s demand for a reported $20,000 a day


Donald Trump has fallen out with his personal lawyer, Rudy Giuliani, and is refusing to pay the former New York mayor’s legal bills, it was reported, with the president feeling abandoned and frustrated during his last days in office.

Giuliani played a key role in Trump’s failed attempts to overturn the results of November’s presidential election through the courts. The lawyer mounted numerous spurious legal challenges, travelling to swing states won by Joe Biden, and spread false claims the vote was rigged.

According to the Washington Post, relations between Trump and Giuliani have dramatically cooled. Trump has instructed his aides not to pay Giuliani’s outstanding fees. The president is reportedly offended by Giuliani’s demand for $20,000 a day – a figure the lawyer denies, but which is apparently in writing. White House officials have even been told not to put through any of Giuliani’s calls.


The apparent breach with Giuliani – one of Trump’s most loyal and sycophantic supporters – has contributed to the president’s sense of isolation and betrayal, aides have suggested.

Trump is reportedly unhappy that members of his inner circle have failed to defend him following last week’s deadly attack on the US Capitol by a mob of his supporters. Many have been silent following Wednesday’s vote in the House of Representatives to impeach Trump for a second time.

Those who have reportedly failed to step up include Trump’s press secretary, Kayleigh McEnany, his son-in-law and adviser, Jared Kushner, and his chief of staff, Mark Meadows, responsible for indulging Trump’s belief that the election was rigged.

“The president is pretty wound up,” one senior administration official told the Post. “No one is out there.”

Trump’s refusal to pay Giuliani’s bills is another blow to the former federal prosecutor. Giuliani is already under fire for his own alleged role in inciting Trump supporters to storm the Capitol building.


Addressing Trump’s Save America rally in Washington last week, Giuliani said: “I’m willing to stake my reputation, the president is willing to stake his reputation, on the fact that we’re going to find criminality there.” He pointedly added: “Let’s have trial by combat.”

Michael Sherwin, the acting US attorney for Washington DC, is investigating the riot. He has said he is looking at numerous participants. They include those who instigated the Capitol invasion, a category that might implicate Trump and Giuliani.

A group of Giuliani’s former colleagues from his time as a Manhattan federal prosecutor have blamed him directly for the post-rally mayhem. “It was jarring and totally disheartening to have seen one of our former colleagues engage in that conduct,” they wrote. He is also facing a disbarment complaint in New York.

Over the past week Trump has suffered a series of damaging reversals. Cabinet members have resigned, corporations have cut links with the Trump organisation, and the US Professional Golfers’ Association has cancelled an agreement to hold its championship next year at Trump’s New Jersey course. His longtime bank, Deutsche, has said it no longer wants him as a customer.



Trump is reportedly more isolated than ever. The White House is sparsely staffed, and those who do go to work there deliberately avoid the Oval Office, the Post reported.

The rift with the president may sink Guiliani’s lingering hopes of receiving a presidential pardon. Last year, Giuliani held discussions with Trump about receiving an amnesty over his work on the president’s behalf in Ukraine. Criminal charges of illegal campaign donations have been filed against two Giuliani associates, Lev Parnas and Igor Fruman. The trio worked to try to dig up dirt on Biden and his son Hunter


no lie rudy went full lunatic and got paid handsomely for it
was he wrong? no
was he very crazy in his delivery, constantly wiping his face from sweating buckets while going nuts on television? yes
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Jan 14 2021 11:30am
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was he wrong? no


Which of Rudy's false claims do you believe to be right?
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Jan 14 2021 11:34am
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Which of Rudy's false claims do you believe to be right?


all of them
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Jan 14 2021 11:42am
Quote (SuperSpreader @ Jan 14 2021 12:22pm)
no lie rudy went full lunatic and got paid handsomely for it
was he wrong? no
was he very crazy in his delivery, constantly wiping his face from sweating buckets while going nuts on television? yes




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Jan 14 2021 11:43am
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This is fucking glorious
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Jan 14 2021 11:44am
trump would never welch
unless welching is needed
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Jan 14 2021 11:49am
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trump would never welch
unless welching is needed


One of the reasons I was surprised that Trump won the first time is he's incredibly unpopular among construction workers because he's a known welcher. He likes to drive small construction companies out of business by welching on them and making them sue him for the money, which he knows they can't afford to do. I thought that would translate to rural indifference to him but I was wrong.

Anyway point is Trump has been known for well over 30 years to welch on any business contract he can.
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Jan 14 2021 11:51am
Quote (Thor123422 @ Jan 14 2021 01:49pm)
One of the reasons I was surprised that Trump won the first time is he's incredibly unpopular among construction workers because he's a known welcher. He likes to drive small construction companies out of business by welching on them and making them sue him for the money, which he knows they can't afford to do. I thought that would translate to rural indifference to him but I was wrong.

Anyway point is Trump has been known for well over 30 years to welch on any business contract he can.


well he wrote an entire book on it
but again, it's not a welch if they didn't complete the task as specified
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Jan 14 2021 11:52am
Quote (Thor123422 @ Jan 14 2021 12:49pm)
One of the reasons I was surprised that Trump won the first time is he's incredibly unpopular among construction workers because he's a known welcher. He likes to drive small construction companies out of business by welching on them and making them sue him for the money, which he knows they can't afford to do. I thought that would translate to rural indifference to him but I was wrong.

Anyway point is Trump has been known for well over 30 years to welch on any business contract he can.


The absolute best part of this being that then the attorneys he uses in those cases turn around and have to sue him for money and he welches them too.

His sociopathy is unmatched and leaves room for some comedic gold.
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Jan 14 2021 11:52am
Quote (Thor123422 @ Jan 14 2021 12:49pm)
One of the reasons I was surprised that Trump won the first time is he's incredibly unpopular among construction workers because he's a known welcher. He likes to drive small construction companies out of business by welching on them and making them sue him for the money, which he knows they can't afford to do. I thought that would translate to rural indifference to him but I was wrong.

Anyway point is Trump has been known for well over 30 years to welch on any business contract he can.


If Trump's lips are moving, he's lying. Simple as that.
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