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Jul 15 2021 01:35pm
Quote (thesnipa @ Jul 15 2021 03:15pm)
source?

seems like far less according to this source.


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Pressly also shows that the percentage of free black slave owners as the total number of free black heads of families was quite high in several states, namely 43 percent in South Carolina, 40 percent in Louisiana, 26 percent in Mississippi, 25 percent in Alabama and 20 percent in Georgia.


https://www.theroot.com/did-black-people-own-slaves-1790895436

Its not to say that its overwhelming number.

But the mainstream black and white narrative is bullshit propaganda and deserves to be pointed out as so.
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Jul 15 2021 01:40pm
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https://www.theroot.com/did-black-people-own-slaves-1790895436

Its not to say that its overwhelming number.

But the mainstream black and white narrative is bullshit propaganda and deserves to be pointed out as so.


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It is reasonable to assume that the 42 percent of the free black slave owners who owned just one slave probably owned a family member to protect that person, as did many of the other black slave owners who owned only slightly larger numbers of slaves.


seems the most likely answer tbh. freed, earned wage, bought family.

im also confused what those %'s mean, that's saying the % of "heads of household" aka free black men with families that "owned slaves"?
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Jul 15 2021 01:41pm
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seems the most likely answer tbh. freed, earned wage, bought family.

im also confused what those %'s mean, that's saying the % of "heads of household" aka free black men with families that "owned slaves"?



Are we going to count women and children too? Or just the numbers that matter?
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Jul 15 2021 01:42pm
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Are we going to count women and children too? Or just the numbers that matter?


i understand the use of men, as they were the only ones able to own slaves, im asking if single men are included in the stat or not, head of household is an odd phrasing.
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Jul 15 2021 01:55pm
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i understand the use of men, as they were the only ones able to own slaves, im asking if single men are included in the stat or not, head of household is an odd phrasing.



Most people were married then so i dont think it is a relevant distinction.
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Jul 15 2021 02:07pm
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Most people were married then so i dont think it is a relevant distinction.


we're most slaves married? did marriage persist in a slave/slave marriage if only one was freed? etc.

all relevant, even if it doesnt shift the needle. but id be interested what % of "black slave owners" owned friends/family.
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Jul 15 2021 04:18pm
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To the contrary, Han pride is the CCP's screed right now.


Which is analogous to "white pride" as opposed to "black pride."
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Jul 15 2021 04:21pm
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Which is analogous to "white pride" as opposed to "black pride."


In-group preference is different from vague phenotypical superiority concepts.

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Jul 15 2021 04:29pm
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Which is analogous to "white pride" as opposed to "black pride."


It goes to show that it has less to do with oppression and more to do with identity. American whites outgrew their ethnic identities and had no reason to grow a new one. That's a future we should want for all Americans.
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Jul 15 2021 04:44pm
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It goes to show that it has less to do with oppression and more to do with identity. American whites outgrew their ethnic identities and had no reason to grow a new one. That's a future we should want for all Americans.


Well duh. Pride is obviously associated with identity by definition. My point was to distinguish between white pride and black pride because Endless seems to struggle for the reasons why they exist. My point was that Italian pride, black pride, gay pride, etc. stem from oppression because the groups needed to stick together. Endless could be in Nazi Germany and be bewildered at the idea of Jewish pride as a response to antisemitism. He would then think that Aryan pride is equivalent to Jewish pride.
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