hundreds of possible scenarios, three in these particular documents (two of which non-violent, and again not authored or even found on him personally, let alone him stating that he supported the one version that did NOT happen but spain looks to put him for decades behind bars for) - yet somehow it should prove how he is guilty of rebellion. i guess i don't have to add anything to this either, just like the difference in ACTUAL violence that happened and who is responsible for the overwhelming majority of it...

so you can try to minimise police brutality all you want, but that doesn't make it unhappen. you can pretend those arrests aren't politically motivated, but facts and independent courts disagree. i'm just telling you that your immense double standard is showing, that's why i reminded you of our putin discussion...

I'm saying there's enough evidence to judge him, not necessarily declare him guilty... I will let our court decide that.

so that one document laying out three scenarios, only one of which even suggests violence, that was neither found nor authored nor supported or promoted concerning the violent scenario by him, is "enough evidence to judge" puigdemont? for REBELLION? how is that even close to violence or inciting violence?
in fact, he publicly called for PEACEFUL resistance multiple times - and overwhelmingly peaceful it in fact was, at least from the catalonian side, especially considering how brutal police forces were against civilians...

no wonder he does not intend to go back to spain, naively assuming he'd get a fair trial if that is the standard...

the capital letters to denote REALLY IMPORTANT WORDS are out in full force zark, you'd better back down now pal!

I didn't say rebellion explicitly. Like I said before, it's very open to interpretation, there are many judges here backing the case for rebellion while also many others are saying it would be better to just go for sedition. It is clear that Puigdemont disobeyed orders from the Supreme and Constitutional courts, so he has to face trial for something. The technical aspects of what charges are appropriate or not isn't something I personally have enough legal knowledge to form an educated opinion about.





This post was edited by zarkadon on May 28 2018 01:23pm

repeating the police brutality fake narrative a thousand times does make it true

with that "logic" literally every act of enforcing the law against resistance is authoritarian, literally north korean or hitlerian, police violence
typical antifa

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but that's what he's charged with, the extradition request was not based on 'something something', but explicitly 'rebellion' - and that's also what most of the others who are currently imprisoned are charged with.
to me it looks like you're finally admitting what the german court found: that the evidence for that just isn't really there, you just don't want to say it outright.
so maybe let's stay with what we know and what we don't, so we don't have to resort half-assed backpedals ('i didn't say XY explicitly, i just acted like it's a reasonable charge throughout this whole discussion') or blame the ignorance concerning legal details (the goalposts are not even in the stadium anymore at this point) for not explicitly stating an (obvious) opinion.

oh, and concerning your sources, i'd really appreciate something in english since i don't speak spanish. you could tell me anything (which i honestly don't think you'd do, you probably cherry picked and only present evidence for one side, but i don't think you'd outright lie about what's in there), but i'd rather be able to read it myself since this really interests me.
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oh right, no police brutality, that's just 'fake news'. when you're so brainwashed that you dismiss even the most obvious things as 'fake news' just because they don't fit your narrative, you know that you've gone full r... never go full r...

https://sports.yahoo.com/zinedine-zidane-abruptly-resigns-real-madrid-manager-131147246.html

please come to the MLS so we can continue leeching grandpa stars

random out of context pictures are exactly what we needed as "proof" for a false narrative
nice job

You've already got Zlatan