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Jan 28 2015 03:09pm
Quote (thundercock @ Jan 27 2015 09:57pm)
Nah, they just believe in supply/demand for labor without ANY interference.


Yeah, some people will believe anything.
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Quote (Skinned @ Jan 28 2015 04:09pm)
Yeah, some people will believe anything.


Yep. Some will even believe they aren't working towards increased unemployment for minorities and poor people when the facts say otherwise.
Then you'll turn around and pull the race card when its you who advocates institutional barriers to their ability to improve their standing in life.

Someone is working for $9 an hour. Quick, call the cops. That shouldn't be allowed!
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Yep. Some will even believe they aren't working towards increased unemployment for minorities and poor people when the facts say otherwise.
Then you'll turn around and pull the race card when its you who advocates institutional barriers to their ability to improve their standing in life.

Someone is working for $9 an hour. Quick, call the cops. That shouldn't be allowed!


Would you object to $2 an hour?
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Jan 28 2015 07:03pm
Quote (Skinned @ Jan 28 2015 05:35pm)
Would you object to $2 an hour?


Something something mutually beneficial voluntary exchange, something something ignore reality.
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Jan 28 2015 07:54pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ Jan 27 2015 04:58pm)
Yeah, when my research advisor tells me to get a paper from a journal with zero impact factor that was founded and funded by a liberal think tank out of his office, that's not ad hominem, its a reasonable assessment of reliability. Nobody actually interested in the truth has time to Wade through crap endlessly. Best to recognize an obvious conflict of interest and corruption and move on.

Go to a serious economics school and cite Heritage. You will be laughed out of the building and given instruction on how to find a reliable source. The fact that the only ones who repeat these results are right wing funded think tanks should tell you something. It takes a right wing funding source pulling the strings to come up with right wing conclusions.


Yeah, when countering legitimate accusations of using fallacious logic, double down by trying to justify fallacious logic. gg
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Quote (duffman316 @ Jan 27 2015 03:31pm)
or we can reduce it to 0 and create more jobs!


The only saving grace about that is that a price floor set below market equilibrium has no surplus creating side effect. It's like you finally took an economics course, but are still struggling over the concepts because you cracked your head on the bathroom sink while slipping in your gay lover's cum.
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The only saving grace about that is that a price floor set below market equilibrium has no surplus creating side effect. It's like you finally took an economics course, but are still struggling over the concepts because you cracked your head on the bathroom sink while slipping in your gay lover's cum.


Vaginal fluid is more slippery, not like you would know.
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Quote (nobrow @ Jan 29 2015 09:49pm)
Vaginal fluid is more slippery, not like you would know.


He is more familiar with santorum.
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He is more familiar with santorum.


:hail:
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Jan 29 2015 09:30pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ Jan 27 2015 06:22pm)
It's not that simple.

My rent is going to go up exactly zero dollars if the minimum wage is raised to 10$/hour. Why? Because there's nobody at my apartment complex that makes below that.

The price of McDonalds will go up, but it will go up less than the cost to raise the pay of the employees. It will also go up less because as spending power of the lowest class goes up, so does the amount bought at places which employ minimum wage workers. Minimum wage workers at wal-mart going to 10$ an hour are going to spend virtually all of it on wal-mart products for their families. This means, in reality, wal-mart makes a good chunk of it back what they were paying extra. Henry Ford understood this and is why he paid his employees much higher wages than everybody else. Because higher wages means less turnover (saved cost for the business) more worker productivity (higher income for the business) and higher revenues (higher income for the business). Overall it has been studied and turns out that raising the minimum wage to a reasonable level grows the economy. Obviously if we raised it to 50$ an hour it would hinder, but a gradual raise to 11$ an hour over 5 or so years wouldn't have catastrophic effects, and this is generally agreed upon as evidenced by a letter sent last year including seven nobel leaureates in economics and seventy other economists urging the united states to raise its minimum wage.

The only sources which say that a gradual raise in the minimum wage would destroy business are right-wing funded sources that fire anybody who disagrees or produces results which don't just happen to benefit their donors. It's not hard to spot bullshit trying to pass itself off as legitimate papers, and Heritage, CATO, Liberty University, etc. stink to high heaven.



So there's a magic cut-off point where mandating minimum wage would in fact hinder the economy? You seem to assert it's 50$, why aren't you comfortable with 15$?
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