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Dec 7 2023 07:10pm
Quote (gnarjay @ Dec 7 2023 10:20pm)


In fairness now, that guy gloated about the terrorist attack that took place in Israel. It is a pretty stupid, ignorant and horrible thing to support such attacks. I read SwamiVivekananda's comments with interest, certainly comments to mull over.

alot of countries spy on their people, i think the Israeli's might struggle with the words "their" and "people" though. a fair comment to make based on what has been said and done so far.

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Quote (JessiWan @ 7 Dec 2023 18:55)
And Christians don't just think God exists. They say that they know he exists. Very convincing argument, isn't it?



This is some creepy behavior that the IDF engages in. I don't know why you advertise it like this. You're making them look bad, lol.


Why bring God into this I'm curious?

You posted an image of someone who was killed and I'm telling you from the research I've done into military patented technology that they could build a "profile" on this individual very fast and it wouldn't take them weeks/months like it used too. It would take hours. Running an advanced algorithm to sift through the data and then deciding is this person a threat and if so how much of a threat. It sounds like science fiction but all the top militaries use this and I'd put the IDF in the top 5 behind US, Russia, China, and the UK.

I don't like the 24/7 surveillance of every inch of the planet. Just like with Edward Snowden when he said the NSA was listening in on every phone call and anything TYPED onto the internet. It's creepy and that's why he became a whistle blower because he knew it was morally wrong and that every American deserved to know they were being "spied on" even if you weren't a "criminal".

I don't support the technology that's why I brought it up. I think people should be more aware of the IDF's military capacity. I think Israel is "flexing" militarily on the more powerful Middle Eastern countries like Iran and basically setting the "we don't care we will kill you" bar really high and as an American I don't want to see us dragged into another international conflict. The politicians who run our country don't care though. Those same military contractors LOBBY to win their approval just like Big Pharma. Joe Biden basically threatened WW3 if we don't approve another $100 billion to Ukraine. It's total lunacy.
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Quote (SwamiVivekananda @ Dec 8 2023 01:21am)
Why bring God into this I'm curious?

You posted an image of someone who was killed and I'm telling you from the research I've done into military patented technology that they could build a "profile" on this individual very fast and it wouldn't take them weeks/months like it used too. It would take hours. Running an advanced algorithm to sift through the data and then deciding is this person a threat and if so how much of a threat. It sounds like science fiction but all the top militaries use this and I'd put the IDF in the top 5 behind US, Russia, China, and the UK.

I don't like the 24/7 surveillance of every inch of the planet. Just like with Edward Snowden when he said the NSA was listening in on every phone call and anything TYPED onto the internet. It's creepy and that's why he became a whistle blower because he knew it was morally wrong and that every American deserved to know they were being "spied on" even if you weren't a "criminal".

I don't support the technology that's why I brought it up. I think people should be more aware of the IDF's military capacity. I think Israel is "flexing" militarily on the more powerful Middle Eastern countries like Iran and basically setting the "we don't care we will kill you" bar really high and as an American I don't want to see us dragged into another international conflict. The politicians who run our country don't care though. Those same military contractors LOBBY to win their approval just like Big Pharma. Joe Biden basically threatened WW3 if we don't approve another $100 billion to Ukraine. It's total lunacy.


well said.
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Dec 7 2023 07:57pm
Quote (JessiWan @ Dec 7 2023 03:16pm)
This is the dumbest thing I have heard in a while.

If I use a tool or a weapon to kill you, I have not committed murder, because I didn't kill you with my hands?


What if the bomb was dropped by an AI that targeted the terrorists based on an algorithm cross referenced with surveillance?

Then its negligent manslaughter at worst
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What if the bomb was dropped by an AI that targeted the terrorists based on an algorithm cross referenced with surveillance?

Then its negligent manslaughter at worst


I don't think it's helpful to split hair with me like this.

Even if you somehow argued your way out of murder, it still stands that the IDF didn't do enough to make sure their drones/bombs don't kill civilians. In such a case, the IDF is still culpable for the deaths. Furthermore, we all can see that they actively wanted these people dead. They just killed them in an indirect way.

Anyway you seem very intent on clearing the IDF of the charge of murder.

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I don't think it's helpful to split hair with me like this.

Even if you somehow argued your way out of murder, it still stands that the IDF didn't do enough to make sure their drones/bombs don't kill civilians. In such a case, the IDF is still culpable for the deaths. Furthermore, we all can see that they actively wanted these people dead. They just killed them in an indirect way.

Anyway you seem very intent on clearing the IDF of the charge of murder.


No one has charged the IDF with murder
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Dec 7 2023 08:42pm
Quote (El1te @ Dec 7 2023 06:31pm)
No one has charged the IDF with murder


Charge as in, public accusation of someone doing something bad. You are probably thinking of what the police does when they accuse someone of committing a crime. "Charge" has a few different meanings.
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Quote (JessiWan @ 8 Dec 2023 01:14)
That is still murder. Killing enemy combatants is a special subset of murder. It's special in the sense that it's not punishable by law. But it's still murder nevertheless.


Call it what ever you want if you collaborate with Hamas or if you are Hamas you are done.

Yesterday we saw them surrender in northern Gaza.
There is no other option, if there was we would try it first.
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Quote (JessiWan @ 8 Dec 2023 04:42)
Charge as in, public accusation of someone doing something bad. You are probably thinking of what the police does when they accuse someone of committing a crime. "Charge" has a few different meanings.


Police is a professional organization the “Public” isnt
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Dec 8 2023 04:54am
Here we have bibi saying that investigations by the ICC into israels genocide of innocent civilians is PURE antisemitism. He also reminds you of the holocaust and says that Syria is bad too.

https://twitter.com/MyLordBebo/status/1733049079406469552
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